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Vlad Just noticed this, maybe the tabs button at the top should retain its outer border or spacing or some other visual element to distinguish it from the other open tabs.

      Vlad Well, I know y'all are a native Mac app and trying to respect the design paradigm, but if I agreed with all of Apple's design decisions I would just use Safari. Hover is perfect if I want to just quickly check what my icons are representing. Without Hover, I would need to do an absurd number of mouse actions to accomplish the same thing:

      • Move mouse to the column
      • Find the column edge
      • Click and hold
      • Drag to the right
      • Drag back to the left

      vs

      • Mouse over the column
      • Mouse away from the column

      Maybe a compromise would be Expand on Hover (only if Option is held)?

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          olivec

          but if I agreed with all of Apple's design decisions I would just use Safari.

          Orion respects HIG like Safari, but also has a lot of features that Safari lacks because it is clear that for Apple web is not a first grade citizen (apps are).

              olivec Btw double click the sidebar edge will toggle between the two widths.

                  ForumNinja404 I agree it looks cool, but the tough part about that is the click to mute feature - What would you click, and what would the muted version look like? At least for the other ones (with the speaker icon) it's straightforward in that you click the little speaker and the muted speaker icon remains the same as normal tabs.

                      2 months later

                      Vlad Isn't the mac setting to show/expand dock on hover an example of it being used? It's also present in Stage Manager, where if your window takes the entire screen you need to hover your mouse close to the left edge to reveal it.

                        i use the side bar a lot, however, at it's smallest it still takes up a lot of space, what i would like is a feature to be able to turn the side bar into just icons, removing the text, which would look something like vivaldi's tool bar.

                        Merged 2 posts from Be able to resize/turn the sidebar into just icons.
                          6 months later

                          At it's minmum width, the vertical tab bar is about twice as wide as it needs to be. Traffic lights could be in the top bar, and then the vertical tab bar can be compressed in width much futher.

                            The drop-down arrow for the window selector could be moved from the right, to below the icon.

                              Yes, I'd also love a slim approach to this issue similar to e.g. Brave.

                                Merged 4 posts from Allow Vertical Tab Bar to be compressed even smaller in width..
                                  4 days later

                                  We further reduced the width of sidebar in the latest RC

                                    5 months later

                                    SerViette

                                    Still much wider than it needs to be. Is further reducing the width planned?

                                        a month later

                                        I hope remember vertical bar size when relaunch Orion.

                                        And. I one idea.
                                        normal use vertical bar as favicon only on width as ver.0.99-128.2.1RC

                                        • mouse cursor in vertical bar -> overlap wide vertical bar. Because I want to operate the tab more than the web page.
                                        • mouse cursor hover tab line -> overlap preview web page. Because It will be easier to check the tab. And If display all the number of open previews that have been resized to the number of vertical display dots on the display, there is a possibility that the preview will become a thumbnail if there are a large number of tabs.
                                          3 months later

                                          Yes please a much slimmer width would be great

                                          3 months later

                                          If there could be a third option perhaps, of a super slimmed down version like in Vivaldi.
                                          And when you need to close a tab, you will need to click on it to make it an active tab and then a 'x' pops up in the middle of the favicon for you to click again to close it. See images below.


                                          For some reason, when taking a screenshot, it doesnt capture the 'x' that displays when you you hover over the active tab favicon. But I hope what im trying to say is still clear.

                                            16 days later

                                            When using Vertial Tabs you have an option to totally hide the sidebar, which hides the tab window, or show the sidebar, which takes up a lot of space. I would like a third option of just showing the tab icons, and when you hover over them the full sidebar would pop out..

                                            This is a feature avliable in edge, allowing tabs to take up a fraction of the screen relastate that the full sidebar takes.

                                            In the image you can see Orion sidebar vs the Edge tabs:

                                              Merged 2 posts from Compact Vertical Tabs.
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