Refresh loops (page randomly reloading)
I upgraded RC on Desktop today (twice). Subsequently, was viewing. a discord page and the page kept reloading. First time I have noticed it. Had to turn off JavaScript on the page, as it was unreadable with the frequent reloads.
Just now, I sat down at the iPad and refreshed a tab with a japanese lesson on it. Navigated to a new lesson, and the lesson page now reloads, and then goes into a linked page (not one which is useful).
App version: 1.3.8 (9) (WebKit 8618.1.15.10.15)
System version: 17.4.1
Device type: iPad Pro 5 12.9"
Native bounds: (2048.0, 2732.0)
Scale: 2.0
Regular tabs: 1/1/1/
Private tabs: 0/0/0/(
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amgems Hi amgems, this may be a different issue that manifests itself with similar symptoms. Can you confirm which version of the RC you are running on your desktop? Also the OS?
Then the issue with the iPad may or may not be related. As Apple forces all browsers and other applications on the iPad (and iOS) platforms to use the same system provided WebKit, an issue that presents in Orion but not Safari on that platform implies the issue is in the main Orion and not the WebKit framework (vice versa, if both Safari and Orion show the same bugs on those platforms then the issue is likely in WebKit, which Orion can't directly address under current Apple policies). However, I believe the issue originally reported in this thread was isolated to the WebKit framework.
In any case, I would suggest reporting desktop and iPad issues seperately -- perhaps adding a link or reference to other if the same website or actions manifest the same bug on both. Then they can be tracked, updated, and eventually closed independently.
@Vlad, is there a way to include more debugging or reporting information from these refresh issues? It seems that whenever something goes wrong in the thread/process that supports a tab/window, it crashes/refreshes with symptoms that are very similar even if the issues are in very different parts of the code/triggered by very different user actions/websites.
This issue persists. I now have disabled Orion sync completely as the only solution to stop refresh loops during authentication.
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Vlad This has definitely something to do with the Sync feature. I've been experiencing the same page reload problem on random web sites in random tabs. And it's not even a page reload, actually — Orion just navigates to the same URL as the first one in the history for the given tab at some random point in time and it happens for several tabs at once. Looks like an iCloud Sync event occurs that makes it do so. Another Orion instance open on another MacBook may be also affected, may be not — but when it is affected, it either does the same or just randomly tosses the same tabs around when it happens. Disabling Sync on one of the devices is a 100% working solution for me that stops this madness. But Sync is so practical...
I have Orion installed for only a couple of days but I'm already in love with its slick UI and all (I'm an Arc switcher where I switched to from Safari — can't stand Chrome and Firefox monsters at all for too many reasons). Please let's get it fixed -) Your browser is amazing, the dual extension support is just brilliant (even though it's not 100% complete). I can provide you with more details if necessary.
PS. Orion.app "About" details:
Version 0.99.129-beta (WebKit 619.1.11.111.2)
Build date Oct 27 2024
Mac Studio (macOS Sequoia 15.1.1 build 24B91)
PPS. Disabling Sync on both devices and then reenabling it again seems to help as well (no more random reloads since I did it last time a few moments ago). But I experienced it before and my guts tell me it will happen again soon.
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truedmik I've just tried to install the latest version:
Version 0.99.130-beta (WebKit 621.1.2.111.4)
Build date Dec 11 2024
Mac Studio (macOS Sequoia 15.1.1 build 24B91)
Unfortunately, the problem with iCloud Sync persists. It's so bad that it makes the Sync feature completely unusable... E.g. when trying to work with my account details on Hetzner.com, Orion is constantly kicking me off to the some preceding URL in the tab history and Hetzner eventually blocks my IP from accessing their website because it finds such frequent and random requests suspicious:
I simply cannot edit my credit card details because of that any more. Too sad. Disabling Sync in Preferences immediately stops this behaviour and this is the only way I can use the website. Hetzner is a random example, I'm seeing this on many other websites too (e.g. grok.com, a custom FreeScout installation web site and so on).
Vlad Thanks for your reply! Sorry for the late response (I didn't get any notifications about new messages) — this problem has gone away with subsequent Orion updates, I didn't see anything like that in a long time. But now there is another major flaw, please see https://orionfeedback.org/d/10443-constant-crashes-page-reloads-google-services-are-unusable.