anmol Planned for next release. I just left a comment to a similar question here, may be useful for context: https://orionfeedback.org/d/4734-issue-with-bitwarden-simplelogin-api-key/11
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UBlock Origin doesn't work, sometimes
19 days later
Adding my voice to the vote. Hoping to see this bug fixed soon because it relates to privacy and security. The picker never works for me and the ad-blocking sometimes only works after refreshing the page. Behaviour is wonky. Following Orion’s recommendation to disable the built-in content blocker when using uBlock Origin leads to trackers being loaded when uBlock Origin fails.
Steps to reproduce:
See video:
Using the element picker works, but only once (either if you create a filter, or quit). To get it to work again, you need to refresh the page.
Expected behavior:
In Firefox, the element picker can be used continuously on the same page without issue. In Orion, it seems this works once, and then requires a page refresh for it to work again, otherwise the button does nothing.
Obviously this isn't really a big issue at all, especially with the workaround, but it is mildly annoying and I thought it was worth reporting.
Orion, OS version; hardware type:
Version 0.99.124-beta (WebKit 616.1.10)
MacBook Pro 16" 2021, macOS Ventura 13.3.1 build 22E772610a
I also experience this issue on the latest RC (Version 0.99.123.3.9-rc)
4 months later
Merged 2 posts from UBlock Origin element picker only works once per page refresh.
16 days later
How come the element picker issue is continuously being merged into this thread? Could this be moved elsewhere? It's a completely separate issue.
Anyway, content blocking is not working reliably on the latest RC (Version 0.99.125.3-rc) so I reckon this got deprioritized out of the planned release version.
Vlad The original post has nothing to do with the element picker. It's about uBlock cosmetic (DOM) filters rules being unreliable. I already had to elaborate this twice because unrelated issues keep being posted here.
https://orionfeedback.org/d/718-ublock-origin-doesnt-work-sometimes/43
https://orionfeedback.org/d/718-ublock-origin-doesnt-work-sometimes/30
szlend That's exactly what element picker does. It applies filter rules to remove some elements (or to add them). That's the main issue with uBo on Orion right now. The rules you applied work only after page restart the same issue applies with rules made with element picker. So these two topics are completely dependant and the merge of them is a right thing.
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i0mx9kk No, it has nothing to do with the element picker. It doesn't matter how you add the rules. The rules can be included in predefined filter lists, or you can also write the rules manually with the help of browser developer tools, which is what I usually do. Fixing the element picker wont fix the issue of unreliable uBlock Origin blocking, hence it's a completely different issue.
I don't want these two to get mixed up, I already had to elaborate what this issue is about twice. The unreliable blocking issue is a far bigger problem as you encounter it every time you open a new tab. While the element picker can be avoided by manually writing the rules with the help of developer tools, or using the element picker in another browser. It's not something you really need on a daily basis. While unreliable adblocking is something you encounter every time you open a new tab.
The point is:
- You derail this thread into making devs focus on the element picker:
Element blocking still won't work properly. Nobody gets a fully working feature, since there's no point to an element picker if the element blocking doesn't work. - You don't derail this thread and devs eventually fix element blocking:
Element blocking is fixed, and everyone can make full use of the feature by temporarily guiding them to enter rules without the element picker, until that entirely separate issue is fixed.
20 days later
Fyi, the new Orion RC supports custom blocking lists for the built-in adblocker. This includes dom selectors like ##img which uBlock Origin struggles with. I haven't tested if it supports every single selector, but at least it works reliably. It doesn't have a way to easily input custom rules yet though, so you have to host the rules somewhere. But that's good enough for me for now.
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Vlad Can you summarize the most important things to look at from this thread as it is getting long?
uBlock Origin: Issues Summary
Here are the main issues I've identified:
1) uBO doesn't initialize correctly on a newly opened tab. Cosmetic filters in uBlock Origin's settings can fail to block elements on page load in a new tab (or after restarting Orion), but work after refreshing the tab:
- uBlock Origin sometimes fails to block elements on websites when accessed through external links that open in a new tab.
- uBlock works when the site is accessed in the same tab, but fails when accessed in a new tab through an external link.
- Links to social media sites like Twitter and YouTube that open in new tabs exhibit this behavior as well.
- Refreshing the new tab causes uBlock to then block elements as intended.
2) If uBO was disabled, it sometimes fails to block elements on websites after being re-enabled from the Extensions menu. User must restart Orion.
3) uBO's control panel from the toolbar doesn't work when I am an advanced user is enabled.
- User cannot scroll down the control panel even after disabling
I am an advanced userand restarting Orion. - https://orionfeedback.org/d/3977-ublock-origin-popup-pane-does-not-render-correctly
4) $removeparam rules do not work in uBO (or with Orion's blocker) to remove tracking parameters from URLs in the address bar. Also a known limitation of Safari ad blocking.
- This is the primary function of AdGuard URL Tracking Protection list and Actually Legitimate URL Shortener Tool.
$removeparamhas made its way into other filters as well.- See https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Static-filter-syntax#removeparam for documentation.
5) General bugs:
- Sometimes a user cannot navigate to another page. After disabling uBO, problem goes away.
- Sometimes a user cannot login to certain sites. After disabling uBO, problem goes away.
6) Element picker functionality doesn't work.
13 days later
5 days later
I'm still having this issue on Version 0.99.126.1-beta (WebKit 618.1.2)
Build date Oct 30 2023
MacBook Air (macOS Sonoma 14.0 build 23A344)
Exactly as described by @yokoffing
7 days later
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Today's new update doesn't fix it unfortunately. Exact same issues persist:
Version 0.99.126.2-beta (WebKit 618.1.2)
Build date Nov 10 2023
MacBook Air (macOS Sonoma 14.0 build 23A344)It doesn't bother me too badly, but it is turning people off Orion. I recommended it on a large forum this week and people responded saying uBlock wasn't working on it.
When the very first promotional image of the browser shows uBlock Origin working, as one of the leading features of the browser, it's important that this benefit actually be delivered.
newtoorion Which feature is not working for you?
Weirdly, the firefox version of the extension "Open in IINA" exhibits the same behaviour as problem #1 as described by @yokoffing above. The extension won't function at all, unless the tab is reloaded, and then functions as expected for the lifespan of that tab. I am reporting this here because the two issues seem very simillar and could stem from the same bug.
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@Vlad - all of the features listed by @yokoffing when you asked them for a summary of the issues a month ago.
I'll paste them again. Orion currently advertises on the back of uBlock Origin working correctly. If this is the case, it should work. This has been a know issue since February of 2022, and the team continues to advertise uBlock Origin as an example of a fully functional extension working in the browser, when that is not true.
'uBlock Origin: Issues Summary
Here are the main issues identified in the thread:
1) uBO doesn't initialize correctly on a newly opened tab. Cosmetic filters in uBlock Origin's settings can fail to block elements on page load in a new tab (or after restarting Orion), but work after refreshing the tab: (Note: this includes the element picker not working, but this is a sub-issue of uBlock Origin not being able to block elements on page load in Orion).
uBlock Origin sometimes fails to block elements on websites when accessed through external links that open in a new tab.
uBlock works when the site is accessed in the same tab, but fails when accessed in a new tab through an external link.
Links to social media sites like Twitter and YouTube that open in new tabs exhibit this behavior as well. Refreshing the new tab causes uBlock to then block elements as intended.
2) If uBO was disabled, it sometimes fails to block elements on websites after being re-enabled from the Extensions menu. User must restart Orion.
3) uBO's control panel from the toolbar doesn't work when I am an advanced user is enabled.'
This thread has been open for more than a year now. This problem has nearly persisted for two years. I don't know how many more summaries of the issues the team needs.