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Steps to reproduce:
Open any webpage and begin to scroll. It seems a bit choppy compared to things like Chrome, Brave, etc.

Expected behavior:
Have more responsive/smoother scrolling across all webpages.

  • Vlad replied to this.
    BravoZulu changed the title to Smoother Scrolling .

      BravoZulu I am not able to reproduce that. Can you record a video comparing them? How does it look compared to Safari?

          I agree with OP, I don't think OP was comparing to Safari. It's the same scrolling as Safari; however, as a firefox user, it was a bit jarring to have no smooth scroll as is standard in firefox/chromium-based.

            Usually WebKit is considered to have the smoothest scrolling as it uses hardware directly to do so.

            Now since I am not a Firefox user can you record a video to detail the difference, because when you say smoothness we may be talking about different things.

              6 days later

              Apologies for the late reply. The video is attached - Firefox with smooth scroll on the right, Orion without smooth scroll on the left. Hopefully the difference is noticeable through video - though it's much more prominent when actually scrolling with them.

              This is using the scrollwheel of an external mouse.

                s2e3440z ok seems to be related to your scroll wheel. I get smooth scroll when using touchpad/trackpad.

                    Vlad changed the title to Smoother Scrolling when using scroll wheel of external mouse .

                      Yep - touchpad is smooth, anything external (other than the magic mouse, I would guess) isn't smooth, but is in Firefox.

                        Not sure that's the case - as it is a setting in both Chrome and Firefox

                        Firefox:

                        Chromium has it on by default unless disabled by open /Applications/Chromium.app --args --disable-smooth-scrolling

                          14 days later

                          Vlad It cannot, macos by default uses instantaneous scroll acceleration to scroll on all pages without an apple pointing device. So what this person is asking for is an animation timer perhaps, of 100ms. Not sure how it would be implemented, it would be quite complex to implement an animation timer with the native macOS scroll acceleration.

                              What appears to be missing for external mice (e.g. MagicMouse) is macOS-standard "velocity scrolling" (AKA accelerated, 'elastic', over-scroll etc.)

                              i.e. in Safari scrolling on trackpad and MagicMouse feels exactly the same, hopefully the same can be true in Orion.

                              EDIT: actually natural macOS scrolling via MagicMouse works fine on orionfeedback.org (and theverge.com), but not linkedin.com for instance… so seems more limited in scope (using 0.99.109.1.4-beta)

                              EDIT 2: could've sworn I saw it working OK on twitter.com, but tried again and velocity scrolling is not present on Twitter… is it possible this behaviour could toggle based on site JS/scroll jacking, i.e. something normally blocked that's leaking through under certain conditions?

                              …or I'm just making up voodoo!?

                                NOPE: not imaging things (!), opening Twitter.com (i.e. Home) in new window gives me MagicMouse natural scrolling, whereas an already open individual Tweet window — ie. direct URL to a specific Tweet in the form https://twitter.com/USER/status/NUMBER — does not have natural scrolling.

                                …interesting…? 🤔

                                  Hmmmm, definitely something interesting going on here — the issue is inconsistent — created a new LinkedIn window and smoothly scrolled with MagicMouse.

                                  …but existing LinkedIn sub-pages already open (e.g. a user's profile) continue to have halting scrolling (MagicMouse only).

                                    4 days later

                                    transeunt There is no smooth scrolling in any form on non-apple mice without any 3rd party software.
                                    The scroll you see is a website javascript based scroll animation in no way related to smooth scrolling added in webkit.
                                    This browser uses webkit, so most scrolling behavior is completely based off upon Safari's scrolling behvaior, that is it was optimized for Apple-created pointing devices.

                                        a month later

                                        I came here just to report this. I am using Mos with mouse smooth scrolling app since I use Logitech Anywhere 3 with Mac and the difference on Orion is noticeable between it and Chrome, Brave, and Safari. Anyway, this can be addressed? I love Orion's speed, but bumpy scrolling is too tough on the eyes. Lots of ppl use Logitech mouse with Macs too, so if Orion intends to be a crossover between Safari speed and Chrome extensions, this feels like a must.