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Vlad We do not know how to do it in an elegant way, because the sidebar is also used to show bookmarks.

One way to do this would be a "compact" mode with icons only which expands to its full width on hover, much like Edge or this extension to Firefox works. This would also solve a problem of tree layout being unmanageable in compact mode:

I would prefer it to work that way, I honestly miss the "on-hover" expand from Firefox, but I can't go back, Orion's too fast 😃

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      Vlad How would you show

      audio playing indicicator
      expand tree arrow
      x to close the tab

      in this mode?

      All of this apart from the audio playing indicator is not really needed to be shown in the minimized version imo, because the tree arrow and x to close are the elements you'd need to interact with to get any use from them (so you'll hover on them, and the tab bar will expand to near-full width). As for the audio playing indicator, in LibreWolf it looks like this (the icon itself is probably fubar-ed because of the dark/light theme inconsistency between my tab bar and the browser itself):

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          5 days later

          FallenChromium Auto expanding the control on hover is really not a part of HIG and I haven't seen it in any Apple app. Can you find a precedent? (this is a part of the requirement of Orion being a fully native app)

              Hi.

              I'm also looking for this option.

              I want to remove the part in red rectangle from Vertical Side Bar. Basically be able to customise that so it's just a tab bar that's vertical.

              See below how it's done with Vertical-Tab-Bar Extension in Firefox, very clean, and saves space for when there's a lot of tabs.

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                4 days later

                Vlad You know what, you're right, I haven't seen this in any Apple app to date. Force touch behavior comes to mind, but it's different. I've come to think about it - hover is not very good for accessibility, probably that's why it's not been widely used. Though I would still love for the tab bar to become narrower at it's min width, alike to the example I've sent you. Perhaps detaching a tab bar from the "traffic lights" buttons would be a good call here (idk what's the alternative option as per guidelines though).

                What about a manual expand to become easier by the way? Maybe we could do something like an arrow button to expand the vertical bar (a hotkey would be desperately needed, too). Usually there's a button to hide the side menu (Think "Console" app, but a lot of Apple apps have that pattern), but a small preview is still essential for a complete browsing experience, so a button nearby the Window switcher (or maybe inside the tab bar itself) to expand/collapse it without manually fiddling with it would be great. As an addition you could also implement "magnetizing" to a minimum and default value, so that it would be easier for user to set up the tab bar width.

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                    6 days later

                    Vlad I just found this thread, after noticing it was removed in the newest update. I think this should be at least considered as an option for those who find it convenient (like me). The reason for this is that it makes the side bar as an easy way to access everything, just like Firefox has (bookmarks, history, synced tabs...) ; especially that the keyboard shortcuts to open the bookmarks and reading list are not very practical to switch from the Bookmarks back to the tab view.

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