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Vlad one more suggestion if you are taking one...
rather than having the url bar and the tab seperate why not remove the url bar and make it so that when you click a tab it expands to url bar.

      7thripr I was thinking about this earlier. As it stands, having both "www.google.com" in the address bar and "Google" in the current tab is a bit redundant, so I like this idea in principle. However, implementing it in a way that feels natural would be tricky... For most layouts I've been able to think of, it's overall worse — i.e. the weirdness is increased more than the redundancy is decreased.

      The only thing I can think of that might work: Remove the address bar from the toolbar entirely, and only have it appear (replacing the current page's favicon and title) when you click on the currently-selected tab (or hit ⌘L). This would potentially work quite well with Option 2, actually, since they already use the same border style as the address bar…

      Kagi team, if you'd like a mockup of this, let me know, and I'll see what I can do! 🙂

          Vlad #1 as the first choice for that safari look, but #6 looks pretty good too in how the active tab sort of blends in more with the browser chrome. #2 sacrifices too much tab size for a minimal change in looks IMO.

              1. very basic, but id rather have something to distinguish between a tab and the rest of the toolbar
              2. also very basic, the borders are really nice, but a bit too much horizontal space wasted
              3. the focused tab floating above everything else feels very off and unnatural
              4. the shading here really helps distinguish between the tabs and the rest of the toolbar, and the grey isn't too much
              5. similar to 3, but its too much depth here. also, the left side when the leftmost tab is
              6. seems like the opposite of 1,seems to me that everything is selected except the focused tab

              ranking (best to worst)
              4 2 1 5 6 3

                eirk Ha, oops! I've never used that feature in Safari, so I didn't realize my idea was so similar 😄 After testing it out just now, my proposal was slightly different, as it would show the favicon and title by default, rather than the URL, but otherwise it's exactly the same as Safari's implementation, yes (and I'm not even very attached to the one thing that's different).

                    2 gets my vote. Definitely the sleekest without being the most in your face. Still are able to differentiate tabs easily.

                      Can someone summarize the votes? 🙂 Like 2 points for first choice and 1 points for second choice.

                        Vlad Some people only selected one, or have ties for second place, so take these totals with a grain of salt. Each user's first and second choices given 2 and 1 votes respectively, as you said:

                        1. 27 votes
                        2. 21 votes
                        3. 12 votes
                        4. 5 votes
                        5. 9 votes
                        6. 3 votes

                            tuesday Thanks for doing this! So the battles is between 1 and 2 it seems.

                                2 points for first choice, 1 point for second choice. On tossups or no clarification on which is first of their 2 choices they both get 2.

                                1. 28 votes
                                2. 29 votes
                                3. 13 votes
                                4. 4 votes
                                5. 10 votes
                                6. 3 votes

                                No matter how it's counted it seems 1 and 2 are both favorites. Maybe an option between the two?

                                2 for sure. It looks closest to Safari’s compact mode. In dark mode, I'd like the active tab to be brighter rather than darker.

                                1 is my second choice.

                                  1 would be my primary choice however I would like to see an option with the url bar integrated into the tab, like it is in safari.

                                  Johnnyvm @Vlad I agree with this, I hate 1 & 2 because it feels too much like safari. I switched to Orion because I wanted something a bit different, not exactly the same. (otherwise there’s no point in switching)

                                  #6 is less jarring and the tabs don’t jump around as much. It’s clear which tab is currently active. It’s beautiful, clean, predictable, I LOVE it.

                                  FYI, The URL should update in the mockup upon switching tabs, but it currently doesn’t.

                                  If I was forced to pick between 1 & 2, I’d pick 1.

                                      ForumNinja404 I hate 1 & 2 because it feels too much like safari. I switched to Orion because I wanted something a bit different, not exactly the same. (otherwise there’s no point in switching)

                                      So if the aesthetics are the same, there’s no point in switching? Despite the numerous changes that aren’t aesthetics? Lol

                                          Longely I was talking about scrolling with colour mode in my last post the idea of colour mode is great and I am all for it but i think the scrolling could be tweaked.

                                              i prefer both 2 and 3 but i would prefer 2 it feels cleaner and more immersive

                                                I'm not going to contribute to the ranking of the variants as there are a lot of opinions. However, I currently have a hard time visually identifying that more tabs are open than shown. Thus, please add an indicator in case more tabs are open than displayed.