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@ForumNinja404 The most accessible design is generally one that leverages the user's existing knowledge of how something should work. The popover find field isn't great, but as you noted, it's a common practice amongst web browsers. What would be even better is a find field that's always available, but that could reduce usability for folks who don't use accessibility features.

@Vlad I tried that browser and it's a pretty terrible experience. Try this: turn on VoiceOver, launch that browser, and then turn the brightness on your screen down to zero. Try to load and navigate to pages uaing only the keyboard and the voice descriptions.

In Kaktus, if you hit command+f there's no indication that the search scope is now the page – VoiceOver just says that a text field has focus. That browser has other major issues (there's no way to put focus in the address bar using cmd+l, for example).

    twingeofregret The Kaktus browser was built by an individual as an experimental project. It hasn’t been updated in three years.
    I think Vlad meant to test the find functionally to get an idea for what it looks like, not to take it as a final product.

    Obviously the design isn’t stellar in that example, but we could definitely build off it and add better accessibility w/ voice over and keyboard navigation. (hence my suggested mockup)

    In regards to your point about not having an always available button, this could easily be added as an option within Orion’s editable toolbar.

      this coupled with the macbook automatically dimming its screen in some conditions makes the number (next to the 'x' circle) almost "disappear", any suggestion on making the default colour just a tiny bit darker tone of grey?

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          Brief Summary
          It would be nice if when you search for something using Command + f, Orion would tell you what the index of the current highlight is.

          Details:
          In other browsers, for example Safari, when you search for something using command + f, you are told for example1/44 or 20/44 so you know where exactly you are. It could be displayed as {index}/{number of matches} like in chrome or '{index} of {number of matches} matches' like in safari.

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            Second this, I was almost ready to suggest the exact same feature.

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                Having find be built into the address bar is a cool idea. Just throwing this out there, would it be possible to have it only take over part of the address bar rather than the whole thing? Kind of like a nested bar or maybe a temporary split until they exit find or go to a different site by clicking on the "smaller" split adress bar. Might be a way to work around some of the issues pointed out while still making good use of space and have a cleaner design.

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                  Vlad

                  This is a VERY rough idea of what I had in mind (my first time putting together a mockup so please forgive any design discrepancies):

                  I think the area that find takes up from the address bar can be dynamic based on what is typed in, that way it could extend or reduce in size. I think the filter option from @ForumNinja404 is a clean option so I included the icon in this one too.

                  Alternatively, instead of nesting the find bar into the address bar, the could share the same area like in the mockup but just be in their own separate bars, side by side if that helps with usability and clarity.

                  Hopefully this makes sense 🙂

                      Vlad Although there isn’t much practical benefit, I think it would help users realize that the find box is still distinctly different than the address bar. My original mockup may confused people as to why they are typing in the address bar. This half-width mockup has the same space-saving benefits as my initial idea, while clearly separating the url and find inputs.

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                        I like Arc's way of doing it, with a floating bar. Maybe with some extra features:

                        • Toggling case sensitivity
                        • Going up and down through results
                        • Indicator of which result number the user is currently looking at (e.g. "4/80")

                          oup_oup_andaway I like this mockup, it doesn't take up "more" space. it's clean and effective + all the filter options are still available. The user can see both the web address and the find query.

                          At this point we should start with something. This post has 52 upvotes and any implementation would be a step up from what we have currently.

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                            oup_oup_andaway Vlad Is there a timeline for this to be implemented? It’s one of the most upvoted requests on the forum, and anything is better than what’s currently available.

                                  In orion, when searching for an item, the total number of items is given like so

                                  It is helpful to know which result is currently highlighted - whether it is 1/3, or 3/3.
                                  Firefox implements this

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