Generate web apps that open in a new window in Focus Mode
Vlad thanks for getting back to me, two things:
- can you provide the link? I'm simply not finding a similar / related thread with searches...
- this is not so much a singularized web app, although traditionally people have called it SSB or web-app-like support. The idea is more along the lines of Orion being able to generate differently named apps of itself for a kind of containerized approach for web browsing so that it keeps browsing context as is deemed appropriate by the user. I'll walk through the kind of scenario with Epichrome and the other competitors and perhaps you can tell me if we're on the same page:
- Orion would have an app generator or method to save a new "Orion" app that would be saved into a folder (eg, "/Applications/Orion/Apps/") with a custom name.
- A custom icon would be selectable by the user if the default icon is not chosen.
- The new app (might, but I don't care about this feature) would have a choice of being a single window or multi-tabbed window version of Orion (I always choose multi-tabbed since I use this for many websites).
- Orion would link the Orion engine to the new app and would be automatically updated when Orion itself is updated.
I can go through this and help with the process in more detail if you'd like. I think this would be a big home run for Orion and frankly I would pay for this functionality since Epichrome was the only one that did things right, but the developer had to abandon it due to his frustration with Google and Brave and not being able to control their choices whatsoever.
Cannabat sadly all of the aforementioned apps are just not really any good. I've used/tested them all. I used (the best, but now no longer maintained) Epichrome and still do and will until it no longer functions, but would love to see Orion step up to make a similar and even superior experience. There just aren't any real viable options that work well and honestly I'd like to move away from Google Chrome and Chromium based browsers, but retain the extensions. Orion seems a natural move in this direction.
The reference to Coherence X by Cannabat would make good model to follow for a minimum viable UI. If you want to go to an even more "minimum" viable UI, Epichrome would also be possible to follow. Orion is pretty impressive - after using it here I can say this could become my go to browser to replace Chrome via Epichrome.
I'd say fire up these little gems and check out their flow from start to finish.
Greetings!
One app that can make "safari-based" progressive web apps on Mac, can be found at
https://www.fluidapp.com
, though that one is "freemium."
In addition, I did try using the Firefox PWA extension to install the YouTube PWA as an example:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/pwas-for-firefox/
, though that seems to not be working at the moment with this browser.
Keep in mind, I am running MacOS 13 and Home Brew is at the moment not officially supported with said version.
More info on Firefox PWA extension at:
since profiles are now released, some of the existing concepts could be reused to do this
- separation of data: data could be separated per-(pwa/app)
- proxy apps: with the new and super cool implementation of these proxy apps that all are controlled by the main Orion app instance, this could be reused to create proxy apps that basically act as profiles that can only have one website. this concept is also kinda similar to what containers do
- dock icon customization: p self explanatory
Chrome has a feature where you can convert any website into a standalone app icon on your desktop without any navbars or tabs.
https://www.lifewire.com/create-shortcuts-in-google-chrome-for-windows-4103617
For example, you can use YouTube Music as an app by creating a shortcut:
It would be nice to be able to do the same on Orion since it is more lightweight.
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One requirement I would have is to be able to have a separate app in a dock. The icon can most likely come from the "apple touch icon" source, not sure whether reconfigurability is that important for a first implementation.
Could be nice to also hook into these config options for Safari if a site has them defined
jvacek I would love the ability to turn websites into standalone apps (aka standalone Orion instances) that can be added to my dock, similar to what Chrome offers.
Came looking for this today, any rough forecast on when this might be coming? I see it tagged "Planned"
Thanks!
I also came here looking exactly for this. I beleive that Orion could do a better job because most of us want something basic that fills that gap that an electron base is undesirabale for, but prevents users from relying on a third party that doesnt specialize in making a browser. I want the underlying base that I love in Orion to power a PWA type tool as has been outlined here in this thread.
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Alacriiity If you create a new Profile, set it to focus mode and start page to your desired app you will get 90% of functionality including a seperate dock icon.
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Working on this for next release
Preview soon in RC.
here is what we are making