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@sannidhyaroy

Whats the benefits of "little Arc" compared to Arc's peek?

https://orionfeedback.org/d/4610-open-different-domains-in-popup-similar-to-arcs-peek

Im just thinking in the usecases mentioned a "Peek" would be sufficient. i really like the idea overall that it doesnt go to your browser window when not needed.

But im just thinking in both Peek and the above mentioned usecases the goal is to avoid creation of new tab/window when not needed or wanted. so perhaps they could work the same? unless theres something im not getting

    Longely little arc and peek are completely separate usecases

        Vlad it's more minimal when comaring to the normal arc window

            actually, this can be seen as "peek" but when you're not in the browser already. it offers a quick preview of the website you go to, and from there, you can choose to go to a full browser tab if you want

              @eirk

              yes, exactly, its kinda like a peek outside the browser, Peeks also offers to go full browser by clicking the "expand" button.

              So its not a matter of seperate usecases. its a matter of what the little arc window offers that a peek doesnt in the mentioned usecases?

              from my testing and in the mentioned usecases i fail to see why anything other then a peek (webapp like window without toolbar) would be needed? hence why im asking

                when using peek, no new windows are created. when using little arc, there is a new little browser window created

                peek is not a window.

                also pls take a look at the videos for peek and little arc. they're quite different

                  eirk

                  I have seen the videos thanks, and been testing both myself in arc, and im fully aware they are different. the question is why do they have to be different in the mentioned usecases?. that has the tittle "Open links from other apps in popup window" but you dont have to anwser, think im kinda done, and will leave it to you

                      Longely

                      But im just thinking in both Peek and the above mentioned usecases the goal is to avoid creation of new tab/window when not needed or wanted. so perhaps they could work the same?

                      This is what I thought too.

                      In good UX design, we first try to understand what is the user trying to achieve, and then produce the best way to achieve that. Arc's implemnetation seems to be 'all over the place', but it seems to be addressing a valid pain point. So lets udnerstand what that is, and then suggest the best way to address it inside Orion.

                        Merged 24 posts from Open links from other apps in popup window.

                          I am actually merging these two threads as they seem to address same or sufficiently similar need and mostly the same people upvoted on both.

                          What I am trying to understand is

                          • what is the problem this solves
                          • what is the best way to solve that problem with minimal effort

                          I appreciate the effort and thinking in this discussion so far and I hope the community can come up with a simple, but detailed ask.

                            @Vlad ok I'm glad someone else can see what im talking about

                            • Vlad replied to this.

                              Longely OK I would appreciate someone processing all information we have so far on the issues and coming up with a clean, consise and minimal ask.

                                  22 days later

                                  Brief Summary
                                  Perhaps when a link is clicked any where on the mac, it can open in a smaller hovering window and the user can use a shortcut to decide if they want to open the link in a full page tab in the browser window.

                                    Merged 1 post from Preview Link in Hovering Window.
                                      11 days later

                                      Ok folks. We have 48 comments in this thread (but remarkably only 8 upvotes.)

                                      We are willing to do something about this but we require somebody to condense and summarize what the MVP ask for this is.

                                      What problem are we trying to solve and what the solution is.

                                        @Vlad Let me have a go at this.

                                        This feature is helpful if there are quick links that we need to refer to and do not wish to create an entirely new tab. The feature is two fold. There is Little Arc and Peek.

                                        The key difference between both is that Little Arc is a floating window that opens in any screen / window as a link is clicked anywhere on the computer and we then have the option to open it into any of the existing spaces or close it once we are done with (cmd+w).

                                        And Peek is a pop up window that opens up when a link is clicked on the Arc window (namely the Pinned Tabs) so that we can preview the link contents before deciding to make it a fresh tab within the currently live space in the side bar or just close it right away with (cmd+w)

                                        In addition to this, there is a feature called ‘Air Traffic Control’, which can filter the clicked url and open them in the respective spaces or pop up windows. Example, I can say, all twitter.com links to open in a pop up window. and I can say, all github.com links to open in my Dev Space and so on.

                                        Further Features:

                                        1. Pop-up window: Users will be able to open a pop-up window that floats / hovers over any active screen / window and serves as an auxiliary / minimal browser window to the existing browser as a whole.
                                        2. Multiple domains: Users can open links different domain names in the pop-up window to access different websites. And they can create custom routes as to where each domain opens (little arc, peek, active tabs, spaces, windows and so on)
                                        3. Navigation: Users will be able to easily navigate between different domains within the same window. Or choose to open it in any of the existing spaces or ‘permanent’ windows.
                                        4. Interaction: Users can interact with each website within the same window, including clicking links, filling out forms, and other basic interactions.
                                        5. Resizing: Users will be able to resize the pop-up window to fit their screen.

                                        I hope this MVP ask meets your needs. Let me know if you have any questions or if there's anything else I can help with!

                                          joelchinta Thanks for your attempt at summarizing this.

                                          • Why is there both little arc and peek (can/should this be one popup?)
                                          • How does user enable this?
                                          • What is the best use case example for user wanting to see a link in a popup?
                                          • Orion already supports native popup windows. Would they suffice?

                                          You can do something like this to try to see if this is OK solution

                                          button.onclick = () => {
  window.open('https://twitter.com');
};

                                          Thanks!

                                              Hi @Vlad , The answers to your questions as follow.

                                              • The two features can be combined into one popup. They both essentially serve the same purpose.
                                              • They enable it in the settings. So all external links open in Little Arc and with a custom keyboard shortcut, they can open a Little Arc window in any screen that the mouse is in, even over fullscreen apps.
                                              • Wanting to see the contents of a link before turning it into an entire tab that gets added to the workflow.
                                              • Orion's native popup windows do not serve the same function as Little Arc, namely being able to open one in any window where the mouse is (even other full screen apps). I tried the solution you suggested. It doesn't suffice, but can be improved with the above features.
                                              • Vlad replied to this.

                                                joelchinta

                                                Orion's native popup windows do not serve the same function as Little Arc, namely being able to open one in any window where the mouse is (even other full screen apps)

                                                Does this mean opening links from other apps? Can you show a video of this?

                                                I tried the solution you suggested. It doesn't suffice, but can be improved with the above features.

                                                Help me understand what is good and what is lacking. Is the shape and size of the window good?