Vlad How difficult would it be to make a computer-wide keyboard command to open the "Little Orion"? Say, if a user holders down 2 keys -> clicks a link. This would give them the ability to choose when it is needed.
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Open different domains in popup (similar to arc's peek)
SamRussell its not a problem of difficulty, but a problem of why such a feature needs to be implemented, and good use cases where such a feature is well suited for
eirk Reason I bring up difficulty is because I am suggesting something different than opening all external links in a popup, which is what the Vlad was saying wouldn't be universally useful.
If you create a global keyboard command, you don't have to figure out "universally useful" cases because the default way is still the way it is now - the user just gets a choice to open a popup using a keyboard command.
I think the best way to implement this would be to have a new option in preferences that is opt-in by default, specifying whether users want links in external apps to be opened in a quicklook-esque fashion. The exact same way Arc browser is doing it.
FWIW I have used this feature from Arc browser quite a lot, and I understand @Vlad's hesitation to implement this feature, as someone who also often bulk opens links from external apps. That being said, I also think for users that do not bulk open links in external apps, this is a very handy feature that will definitely be worthwhile implementing correctly.
This is why I think having the opt-in option in preferences is the best way going about this, the users that this feature would annoy, would never know about it, and the users that want it, can choose to have it enabled.
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JunkBrunstoe We'd liek to understand better what "understanding correctly" means. ALso chance is that casual users would never find this option, and making it on default is almost sure to annoy a lot of users who expect the browser to behave in a "standard" way. Still seeking guidance here.
SamRussell Would appreciate futrher specification for the feature.
this is the popup window from arc:
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Whats the benefits of "little Arc" compared to Arc's peek?
https://orionfeedback.org/d/4610-open-different-domains-in-popup-similar-to-arcs-peek
Im just thinking in the usecases mentioned a "Peek" would be sufficient. i really like the idea overall that it doesnt go to your browser window when not needed.
But im just thinking in both Peek and the above mentioned usecases the goal is to avoid creation of new tab/window when not needed or wanted. so perhaps they could work the same? unless theres something im not getting
actually, this can be seen as "peek" but when you're not in the browser already. it offers a quick preview of the website you go to, and from there, you can choose to go to a full browser tab if you want
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yes, exactly, its kinda like a peek outside the browser, Peeks also offers to go full browser by clicking the "expand" button.
So its not a matter of seperate usecases. its a matter of what the little arc window offers that a peek doesnt in the mentioned usecases?
from my testing and in the mentioned usecases i fail to see why anything other then a peek (webapp like window without toolbar) would be needed? hence why im asking
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when using peek, no new windows are created. when using little arc, there is a new little browser window created
peek is not a window.
also pls take a look at the videos for peek and little arc. they're quite different
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I have seen the videos thanks, and been testing both myself in arc, and im fully aware they are different. the question is why do they have to be different in the mentioned usecases?. that has the tittle "Open links from other apps in popup window" but you dont have to anwser, think im kinda done, and will leave it to you
But im just thinking in both Peek and the above mentioned usecases the goal is to avoid creation of new tab/window when not needed or wanted. so perhaps they could work the same?
This is what I thought too.
In good UX design, we first try to understand what is the user trying to achieve, and then produce the best way to achieve that. Arc's implemnetation seems to be 'all over the place', but it seems to be addressing a valid pain point. So lets udnerstand what that is, and then suggest the best way to address it inside Orion.
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I am actually merging these two threads as they seem to address same or sufficiently similar need and mostly the same people upvoted on both.
What I am trying to understand is
- what is the problem this solves
- what is the best way to solve that problem with minimal effort
I appreciate the effort and thinking in this discussion so far and I hope the community can come up with a simple, but detailed ask.