I have seen the videos thanks, and been testing both myself in arc, and im fully aware they are different. the question is why do they have to be different in the mentioned usecases?. that has the tittle "Open links from other apps in popup window" but you dont have to anwser, think im kinda done, and will leave it to you
But im just thinking in both Peek and the above mentioned usecases the goal is to avoid creation of new tab/window when not needed or wanted. so perhaps they could work the same?
This is what I thought too.
In good UX design, we first try to understand what is the user trying to achieve, and then produce the best way to achieve that. Arc's implemnetation seems to be 'all over the place', but it seems to be addressing a valid pain point. So lets udnerstand what that is, and then suggest the best way to address it inside Orion.
I am actually merging these two threads as they seem to address same or sufficiently similar need and mostly the same people upvoted on both.
What I am trying to understand is
I appreciate the effort and thinking in this discussion so far and I hope the community can come up with a simple, but detailed ask.
Brief Summary
Perhaps when a link is clicked any where on the mac, it can open in a smaller hovering window and the user can use a shortcut to decide if they want to open the link in a full page tab in the browser window.
Ok folks. We have 48 comments in this thread (but remarkably only 8 upvotes.)
We are willing to do something about this but we require somebody to condense and summarize what the MVP ask for this is.
What problem are we trying to solve and what the solution is.
@Vlad Let me have a go at this.
This feature is helpful if there are quick links that we need to refer to and do not wish to create an entirely new tab. The feature is two fold. There is Little Arc and Peek.
The key difference between both is that Little Arc is a floating window that opens in any screen / window as a link is clicked anywhere on the computer and we then have the option to open it into any of the existing spaces or close it once we are done with (cmd+w).
And Peek is a pop up window that opens up when a link is clicked on the Arc window (namely the Pinned Tabs) so that we can preview the link contents before deciding to make it a fresh tab within the currently live space in the side bar or just close it right away with (cmd+w)
In addition to this, there is a feature called ‘Air Traffic Control’, which can filter the clicked url and open them in the respective spaces or pop up windows. Example, I can say, all twitter.com links to open in a pop up window. and I can say, all github.com links to open in my Dev Space and so on.
Further Features:
I hope this MVP ask meets your needs. Let me know if you have any questions or if there's anything else I can help with!
joelchinta Thanks for your attempt at summarizing this.
You can do something like this to try to see if this is OK solution
button.onclick = () => {
window.open('https://twitter.com');
};Thanks!
Hi @Vlad , The answers to your questions as follow.
Orion's native popup windows do not serve the same function as Little Arc, namely being able to open one in any window where the mouse is (even other full screen apps)
Does this mean opening links from other apps? Can you show a video of this?
I tried the solution you suggested. It doesn't suffice, but can be improved with the above features.
Help me understand what is good and what is lacking. Is the shape and size of the window good?
I think Peter does a great job in the video of demonstrating and explaining the two features. Worth for you to have a look as well.
This is exactly what we're looking for. Does Orion have this ability prebuilt?
(from 4.04)
(from 5.09)
Thank you! I watched these and it seems to suggest:
Does this capture what the ask is?
Vlad Between Peek and Little Arc, it seems to me you want Peek.
Yup, I think you're right.
Vlad Good proxy for Peek would be Orion's native web app window or a focus window.
I agree
Vlad It seems to me that you'd want the Peek window to open automatically open for a) clicked links that open a new tab in Pinned windows and b) clicked links in external apps
Correct
Vlad There should be a way to dock this mini window to main Orion window
Yup, a button and a keyboard shortcut Cmd+O
Vlad Finally I would image that not all people would want this behavior
Agreed
Vlad Is there an option in Arc for both these features, and what is the default?
The default is that Little Arc opens for all external app links, Peek opens for all clicked links in Pinned Tabs, It also acts as an opener for URL Schemes to open directly within an external app instead of opening a browser window (but one would have to agree to open that link in an external app the first time a schema link is clicked.
The options offered is that we could choose to enable or disable this in the settings.
The options offered is that we could choose to enable or disable this in the settings.
Please name and position these options in current Orion settings.
under Browsing
then whatever you choose to name it, and a check box
One thing i disagree about tho, is that i dont think it should be the deafult for pinned tabs, i dont see the logic in it. i think you should be able to open links this mode by holding down a hot key as we talked about further op.
And then i guess you can argue no option would be needed. but for other apps there should be a setting if they should open in this kinda window