I have 10 tab groups with a total of 200 tabs. Each time I close and restart the browser my tab order is messed up.

Magebarf

I'm experiencing the same thing here...

I think the title of this issue can be renamed, as the "requirements" are as shown by @Jimpaly very low, and no tab groups or similar is needed. A suggestion for name is "Tab order randomized upon restart/window reopen"?

On my end, I have about 40 tabs open with pages I visit semi-periodically, hence why I'm so bad at closing them. All of them in the same tab group, I've not yet figured out a good way of organizing them to my liking. 😀
Over the time I've noticed small changes in the order, but not fully realized what is happening until today.

Prior to a reboot I was visiting the Swedish IRS web page (tax declaration season over here), with two tabs open lined up neatly next to each other, and I was also reading a bunch of threads on SmallNetBuilder Forums.
After the MacOS reboot and Orion starting back up, the tab order came out like this:

The two tabs originally placed next to each other was now "split" by the forum tabs, giving a clear proof that the order of the tabs are mangled.

Magebarf

To add some more details; On previous restarts the four tabs from the SNBForums, each with a different sub-forum/category on the forum, has come up in random order. I thought I remembered which order I had them open, but wrote it down as confusion. After seeing a clear evidence (the screenshot where the two tabs were separated by the four SNBForum tabs) I'm even more sure the reordering happens.

Interestingly, those four tabs has been kept together for quite a number of restarts, but their internal order does not come up the same every time.

bitwalker

Is there any movement on this one? I've had this issue since I started using Orion, and I basically try to avoid restarting the browser if at all possible as a result, but each time I do it's super annoying to find the tabs essentially completely randomized - like, not even close to the original order they were opened in, let alone the order I sorted them into. In some cases, even the parent/child relationship is lost, but then in other cases it's preserved; I can't really tell if there is a specific criteria on that part of it though.

Orion is the only browser I've used that doesn't go out of it's way to restore tabs to their original order and hierarchy upon restart. Fingers crossed this gets addressed soon.

Vlad

bitwalker Yes, we can move it to Planned queue (which we already did) where it awaits to be looked at together with more than a 1,000 similar cards. I know this issue is important to you, the problem is every other one is important to someone too and the team is already doing everything humanely possible. We are just three developers.

bitwalker

Vlad Understood, I certainly don’t mean to imply that you all are doing anything other than a great job, I’m just surprised to see something like this still lingering after several months. In any case, I’m sure there is a never ending queue of higher priority issues, so if this one isn’t making the cut, I trust your judgment.

Vlad

bitwalker I can understand you are surprised but judging by the number of upvotes, it is a fairly low impact thing, and not something most users experience every day.

janpeeters

Could this be related and merged?
https://orionfeedback.org/d/1549-switching-from-vertical-tabs-and-back-again-messes-up-tab-order/

pingiun

Steps to reproduce:

Use vertical tab mode
Switch to normal tab mode and open some tabs
Switch back to vertical tab mode
Some tabs are not visible anymore and when using cmd+num the invisible tabs from normal tab mode come back

Expected behavior:
Tabs in both modes are compatible

Orion, OS version; hardware type:
Orion: Version 0.99.111-beta
macOS: 12.1 Monterey
M1 macbook pro

Vlad

pingiun Please provide exact steps to reproduce.

andrewbk001

I'm trying to reproduce this on my machine (M1 MacBook Air, Monterey, same Origin version) to see if I can add detail but I haven't been able to reproduce it. Does this happen with a lot of tabs? Do the tabs have long names? Is there a website this reliably happens with?

Btw. Did not know about the command shortcut for switching tabs; thanks for teaching me.

pingiun

Of course, I've just tried again and this should be reproducible:

Have a pinned tab
Switch to horizontal tab mode
Click a link on the pinned tab
Go back to pinned tab (don't know if this is necessary)
Switch to vertical tab mode
Can't find opened tab in tab list
Using cmd+2 still goes to the just opened tab which isn't visible in the vertical tabs

Here is a video which shows the process:

At the end of the video (before I switch back to vertical) I use cmd+2 and cmd+1 to switch between my pinned tab and the invisible tab I just opened.

Vlad

pingiun Those steps to reproduce do not match your video. You seem to have 50+ tabs open and it seems they are a factor somehow. Doing it with just a pinned tab open does not reproduce the issue.

pingiun

Also the browser crashes if you try to close the "invisible" tab

pingiun

I wasn't aware having many tabs open could be the problem

Vlad

pingiun Try reproducing it with just a pinned tab and start page, and you come to my world trying to reproduce the issue as you wrote it 🙂

pingiun

It seems tabs open at the end of my tab list now instead of the start so I'm unable to reproduce this

alfr

Not sure if it the same, but I getting tabs' mess after Orion is restarted. The strange is that this not quite stable behaviour. I can reproduce it with ₅₀/50 chance.

My steps to reproduce is:

Create new window, and a tree of tabs (like 1, 1.1, 1.1.1, 1.1.1.1, 1.2, 1.3), and close the browser
Open the browser
Click all tabs from bottom to top
Ctrl-Tab from the top

So in step 3 it will cycle either 1, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.1.1, 1.1.1.1, or 1, 1.1, 1.1.1, 1.1.1.1, 1.2, 1.3.
If one will restart the browser, it could cycle in different order (one of these two).

alfr

Here is the screencast. First attempt with correct behaviour, second with incorrect.