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Im i wrong if i remember safari or other browsers use to have a small butoon in the right corner to expand tool bar to show adress bar on pop ups?

  • Vlad replied to this.

    made a mockup of how i remember it:


    if i remember correctly the button would only be there when collapsed, and then dissapear after expanding

      Vlad it doesnt seem to be present anymore. i tried googling it seeing if there was any screenshots of older versions with it, but couldnt find any

        Vlad now that i think about it, i think it was a general Mac OS thing. also for finder windows. found this:

        I think its a good solution

          Yeah after googling it a bit. it was a general Mac Os thing to colapse tool bar into a narow bar

          pretty sure Safari had it aswell when adress bar was hidden in pop ups

            Impossible to find earlier Safari versions, so i tried earlier browser and found both Shiira and Camino with it.
            cant find them colapsed tho

              A website should not be able top dictate which browser UI elements are available for me to use. It should not be able to hide my bookmarks / extensions / anything. I configured my browser to have the features I want to use - those features should be there no matter what page I am on.

              Steps to reproduce:

              1. Navigate to: https://boards.greenhouse.io/clearcover/jobs/6358520002?t=0eadce002us#app
              2. Click "Apply with LinkedIn button"
              3. Be unable to use my password manager to login because my installed extensions are not available in the popup window

              Expected behavior:
              I expect the popup window to contain all the UI/Chrome elements that I have configured to be present in my browser window.

              • Address bar
              • Extensions
              • Bookmarks
              • Sidebar
              • ...

              Actual behavior:

              • No address bar
              • No Bookmarks
              • No extensions
              • Unable to open sidebar

              Orion, OS version; hardware type:
              Version 0.99.120.1-beta (WebKit 614.1.20)
              MacBook Pro (macOS Monterey 12.6 build 21G115)

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                This behavior exists in just about every browser out there, is there one you're aware of where this isn't the case?

                What password manager extension do you use? I use Bitwarden, and if you right-click in one of the fields on the login form, you can access the Bitwarden menu and use auto-fill.

                  I realize this is common in most browsers. I think it is a bug. A website should have no say in anything outside the content window. This is a security / privacy issue - I cannot see the URL to verify I am submitting information to the site I am expecting. This is an accessibility issue - I have bookmarklets and extensions that I use to modify styles to make sites more readable to me. This is a common sense issue - it is my browser and a website shouldn't be able to dictate what I can and cannot do.
                  At the very least, I should have an option to allow / disallow this behavior.
                  One browser I used to use (way back in the day) was K-Meleon which allowed the user to configure this behavior. Firefox used to allow the user to configure this behavior. IE & Chrome used to always display at least a read-only address bar as phishing protection.

                  I use Bitwarden as well - thank you for the reminder about the context menu feature.

                    This is simply what a "popup" window always behaves like, across major browsers. I believe you are asking for the ability to prevent popup windows from not having certain UI features.

                      I do understand why you would want popup windows to have a URL. Make a separate post for that.

                        8 days later

                        eirk

                        I am asking for:

                        1. popups show at least the address bar (phishing security)
                        2. option to force all "popup" windows to open in a new tab (so I am not denied access to UI features)
                        • Vlad replied to this.

                          yep, that makes a lot of sense. you should make separate posts for each of those. (or use this post for one of them)

                            bluedaisy

                            option to force all "popup" windows to open in a new tab (so I am not denied access to UI features)

                            You can already do this if you cmd click link that opens in a popup.

                              Ok so if I test here

                              https://webbrowsertools.com/popup-blocker/

                              I can see that Orion shows only website domain in the title of popup window, while Safari shows full path, favicon and lock icon for https

                              So we should also do that.

                                Vlad This does not always work, especially if the popup is created automatically by a website, for normal (or malicious purposes). I recommend adding this to the app settings.

                                  Vlad

                                  Thanks for pointing that out. The right-click context menu didn't give me option to "Open in..." anything.
                                  Cmd + click worked exactly how I wanted on the sites I was having issues.

                                  Chrome and Firefox always show at least a read-only address bar.
                                  Safari puts the address in the title bar.

                                  Firefox used to have the options to prevent a website from controlling the UI elements. AFAICT that is no longer the case.
                                  (2009) - https://kb.mozillazine.org/Prevent_websites_from_disabling_new_window_features

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