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Closing tabs automatically seems like a very abrupt/unwanted behavior so would like to understand the use case for this and main differences to already implemented "low power mode".

    7 months later

    This option never worked for me on iOS (Orion 1.3.6 (2), iOS 17.2.1). Tabs remain unchanged after many days even though I set them to close after 1 day automatically. It's the same problem as with Safari. Does this option work for anyone?

    • Vlad replied to this.
      14 days later

      MichaSobczyk This is a thread for Desktop version. Please open a bug report separately (with steps to reproduce)

        2 months later

        Vlad especially when using vertical tab layouts it's easy to open a ton of tabs and never close them. For the users that opt to enable the proposed feature, the cleaning work is done automatically, whether it'd be stuff you forgot to close or things that you open "for later" but then never actually click on. This is especially cool with an even shorter minimum time than on Safari (half a day), it feels good to wake up your computer every morning to a clean tab bar

        it also can make you engage with open tabs in a more meaningful way. It's tempting to leave everything of mild interest open, but once you turn on auto-close you will need to go either view a tab you opened within the minimum time, or go through the effort to save anything that you want to see in the future. Tabs that you actually care about like research for school/work or really interesting articles will usually make the cut, random youtube videos you opened while procastinating or stuff you wanted to close anyway will not. They'll be gone after a while and won't distract you from whatever you have Orion open to really do

          11 days later

          Arc Browser does that and I honestly think it is one of their killer features. They divide tabs in "permanent" ones and "fleeting" ones. First ones stay, second ones get archived after 24h. It feels weird, but when using it, it absolutely makes sense. Tabs that are archived are still accessible in the archive (history). I'd absolutely love for something similar in Orion, makes it so much easier to finish browsing for a day, move whatever you still need to permanent tabs and just start fresh in the morning.

            7 days later

            tkg I second this, waking up to a fresh tab bar is so nice! I actually took a break from Orion and switched to Arc for a while to try it out and at first the auto-close function seemed dumb to me so i disabled it. but when i gave it a shot out of curiosity i ended up loving it! When i decided to switch back to Orion and opened it again I was immediately hit over the head with like two browser windows with 40 different tabs each and realized how much I would miss the auto cleanup feature

            Arc has a bunch of stuff building upon the auto-closing feature like the "Archive" history, or a second option besides pins to exclude websites from being auto closed. these probably go beyond the scope of the suggestion @AD329 opened, but i think me and a lot of other users would be already be really happy about having some tab auto closing feature with a minimum duration that is short enough to clean up unused tabs by the next morning

            3 months later

            tkg I totally agree. Having been used Arc for a while, this feature really eases my mental burden a lot. Facing with a ton of potentially useless tabs is definitely tiresome.

              2 months later

              Big +1 to auto-close in Orion, too. It really is a killer-feature in Arc - it allows you to operate effectively "tabless", and you forgot about the tab-bar completely.

              • Vlad replied to this.

                tetigi Can you provide exact specification of the feature as you would like to have it?

                  Vlad

                  Thanks for following up!

                  In its most basic form, this is an option that specifies that after some period of time (normally 12 hours, or a day, a week, etc.), inactive tabs automatically get cleaned up.

                  This is effectively like 'house-keeping' - things you're not using eventually disappear, decluttering your tab space of stuff you're likely not working on.

                  This is typically paired with a very good "omni-search" style flow - that your search bar basically becomes a single place to search for open tabs, history, the internet, and so on. The tab area becomes a staging ground for recent pages (which will load faster), but you access all of these things through the same search method.

                  In Arc, they combine these things in such a way that you effectively don't even look at your tab system. You can totally hide it, and end up with a window that is only focused on the thing that you're currently doing. It's really compelling - tabs become an afterthought due to the omni-search, and if you really need to find something you were doing recently, the tree-style-tab view allows you to see your access-history (and from where they were accessed due to the nesting).

                  It sounds weird coming from a traditional tab setup (particularly with horizontal tabs), but I find that this closely mirrors how I think how about getting-things-done (eg. Todoist style). You're only really working on 1 or 2 things at a time, and as you shift contexts, you end up generating "cruft" from opening other tabs, links and whatnot. Knowing that the browser will clean these up removes a garbage-collection step from your tab management.

                  I know that Orion is not Arc - but they have some really interesting ideas on turning the browser into something that closely matches human-workflows. I don't use Arc anymore as I'm not confident in their security posture, but I deeply miss their UX.

                  • Vlad replied to this.

                    tetigi Orion already allows searching of tabs in the address bar. But I think a lot of users would be very upset about their tabs closing automatically. What happens to them?

                      Vlad

                      It's behind an option. This is the default for any browser I've seen this in, including Safari itself.

                      This is from the most recent Safari:

                      • Vlad replied to this.

                        tetigi Thanks that is a useful reference! Once closed I guess these tabs can not be restored at all?

                          Vlad On Safari I don't think you can restore them. Arc puts them in an "Archive", which is basically your history but ordered by tab-close-time rather than visit time.

                          It's worth noting that pinned tabs don't get cleaned up.

                          13 days later

                          Echoing my preference for this option too.

                          It should exclude pinned tabs, but I would LOVE an option to auto-close the rest. If I need to keep something, I will bookmark it or pin it (I come from Arc, so mentally those mean the same thing)

                            3 months later

                            I'm considering a switch from Arc to Orion and this is a feature I will sorely miss.

                            Auto-closing tabs doesn't feel like suddenly losing work, it's about having a clean browser experience. Separating tabs I want to keep from ephemeral tabs that opened because I clicked on a link in my email or slack but I don't really care about. There are other Arc features that help with this but I don't want to go off topic.

                            Coming back to a "traditional" browser after a year or two on Arc feels like a lot of extra time spent manually auditing tabs to get rid of cruft.

                              9 days later

                              I'm switching from Arc to Orion+ as well. I'm using vertical tabs with a few workspaces, but I really miss the automatic tab cleanup. It was so nice to start fresh every morning. Also @vlad once a tab is closed you can still get it back by searching the history.

                              The other thing that just does not work well is the iCloud Password chrome plugin. It works OK from the extension icon in the main menu bar, but I cannot get it to fill a password for me when clicking in the login or password fields.

                              a month later

                              Seeing as this is a feature in the iOS app, it seems strange a user isn't allowed to choose the same behaviour on macOS.

                                Brief Summary
                                This feature is for when you have a lot of open tabs, and you don't want to have to close then manually, so the browser would close tabs that have not been accessed for a certain amout of time.

                                Details:
                                A user would go to the settings page, change the default timer(could be 15 minutes) to what they choose, and as he leaves tabs open, the timer for that tab starts, and if the user did not access that tab before the timer runs out, the browser closes the tab.

                                Other options the user would have on the settings would be to select if pinned tabs, or tabs that are playing sound should have a timer. Also would be nice to set certain domains to not have a timer. All the tabs closed this way should go to the history like every other tab, so if the timer for a tab has run out you could go there to reopen the tab.

                                There's an extension that does this, but it doesn't work well with Orion, and I believe a "native" implementation would be more stable, scince they're not looking to make the extension compatible with webkit based browsers, so there's a good chance functionallity will break more in the future.

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