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Most people go into fullscreen mode because they want to make use of spaces and use gestures between fullscreen applications. Hiding the toolbar by default indicates this isn't the primary purpose, even though it is.

This would also be a parity default with Safari.

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    h2flux It was previously requested that fullscreen hides toolbar by default because 'most people use fullscreen to maximize visible area of the page'. Looks like a discussion is needed.

      Vlad I think that Orion, by default, should try to optimize around the default macOS window management solution.

      To manage windows in stock macOS, you fullscreen apps and swipe between them; you fullscreen to make multi-taking usable, not because you want more screen realestate. Third party apps like Magnet change how/why people do this, instead people just maximize apps like Windows leading them to only fullscreen when they want to have more content on the screen.

      Admittedly, it was very confusing the first time I fullscreened Orion. It wasn't the behavior I was expecting. I think people who want that behavior should have the option to easily change it, but I don't think it should be the default.

      It should be, this is Safari behavior.

        6 days later

        Alright, we will make "Always Show Toolbar in Full Screen" default.

          8 months later

          Just realised that a similar post already exists (although its a bit dated).
          @Vlad Feel free to decide if you wanna continue with the previous consensus or have another round of debate on this topic.

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              Safari has "Always Show Toolbar in Full Screen" enabled by default whereas Orion doesn't. I think both have their pros and cons.

              Having it enabled allows for better access to extensions/website settings and stuff like that (especially in light of this). OTOH, having it disabled allows for more screen real estate (especially preferable for devices with smaller screens) and also contributes to a minimal, less-cluttered UI.

              Different people might have different takes on this, so this is more of a "discussion" type of post. Feel free to add your thoughts on whether you think this should be enabled or disabled by default.

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