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Im pretty sure passkeys are different. whenever i try and use passkeys signing into things like amazon using passkeys doesn't work and errors out without giving more information.

    Steps to reproduce:

    Expected behavior:
    The 3rd Party Provider handles request to create and save passkey. In my case, 1Password should pop up asking to create/update a login with passkey.

    Orion, OS version; hardware type:
    0.99.125 & 0.99.125.3-rc, macOS 13.6, M2

    Note: this works on iOS 17 with 1Password 8.10.6 (app store release) and Orion 1.3.4 (1) which is what led me to test on macOS

    7 months later

    Can this be implemented in a generic way, so it works with any 3rd-party password manager? I could use this for Strongbox (which works fine in Safari, see screenshot below). 🙂


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    Merged 2 posts from Passkeys do not use Password Manager.

      Currerntly, extensions like bitwarden support storing passkeys. However, not in Orion.
      While using Orion, I see in google account settings "A passkey can’t be created on this device", however this works in Chrome and when clicked "add a passkey" bitwarden popup opens.

      I have a self-hosted instance of Bitwarden and happy to provide a test account for dev purposes if needed.

      A note: this is no a duplicate of #3025, #3025 is more about storing the passkeys in ios keychain (and/or on TPM like Safari does), but my issue is about supporting API for extensions to do that.

      expected the pop-up to appear 🙂

      0.99.126

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        Got an interesting observation, while recording the demonstration, I've used a different website to register a passkey for (passkeys.io instead of google, as I tried initially). Surprisingly, it worked in both chrome and Orion. So the issue per se is not with the extensions API, but rather something different, which makes google website not recognize a compatible device.

        And a video demonstrating the interaction with bitwarden:

          I have also tried that in Safari.
          Visiting google passkeys page gave me a green (well, blue) shield like in Chrome telling me the device is supported. I didn't try further though.

          Had another clue, I've changed the user agent to "Safari" in Orion, and, well, it didn't work. So I thought it's based on some other native APIs. However, changing the user-agent to Chrome in Safari made it work (!) with both bitwarden and later (when declined in bitwarden) it asked to interact with a TouchID.

          So, here I come to a conclusion that the evil company is doing its evil things again.

          However, I don't quite get it why it works in my Safari, but doesn't work with the same exact user-agent (I've checked) in Orion.

            @Vlad I'm not quite sure what to name this issue now considering my new observations.
            Perhaps, the problem is that having the same exact user-agent in Orion as in Safari doesn't work for google.

              It may be a duplicate of #3025 after all and we just need to look more into it? For what is worth I was able to create a passkey for github with no problem in Orion with no changes made.

                Vlad I'm not quite sure how to qualify this as I don't graps what #3025 is about any longer, as it seems it works in Orion.

                The part of the problem which stays (and is not a part of a bigger "passkeys" subject per se) is that google thinks passkeys are not supported in Orion, thought it works in Safari with the same user-agent.

                    I use 1password and it seems to work though.

                      a month later

                      I can confirm google's passkey can't be made in Orion currently. Github passkey works fine.

                        Merged 9 posts from Passkeys API for extensions is not supported.
                          21 days later

                          tl;dr the current implementation of Orion's passkeys seems to be implemented in its own way, rather than using the apple-provided native APIs, resulting in it not working consistently, and not being compatible at times.

                          danrungg Great observation! Updating the 1Password extension fixed this issue for me and got passkey signin via 1Password working as expected in Orion! 🙌

                            17 days later

                            Just chiming in here, that I would love to see Orion handle passkeys like Safari does. It currently works well with 1Password when the extension is installed, but for things like Strongbox it doesn't. Safari works consistently every time.

                              5 days later

                              jmanes I agree. I also use Strongbox and this is one reason why I can’t fully switch to Orion at this point.

                              (Edit: Just realized my post from another issue report was merged into this one and is shown above.)