Support passkeys

Vlad

Adding this link for discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35854216

Jtm

I have an Apple passkey set up with GitHub...

In Safari it's directly integrated, while in other browsers (even other operating systems) I get the option to display a QR code and approve the sign-in on my iPhone. Here's what that looks like in Arc:

In Orion I do not get the QR-code option at all.

As I don't have a physical security key to insert, I'm unable to sign in to GitHub at all from Orion, even though it works fine from Chrome, Edge, Firefox, Vivaldi, Brave, and Arc.

It would be really nice if Orion supported this to the extent all other non-Safari browsers seem to.

Vlad

Jtm Can you record a video of what this look like in chrome/firefox and what it looks like in Orion?

Jtm

Vlad

My mistake, it does not in fact work with Firefox. It does, however, work with every Chromium-based browser I've tried.

patrick

I would like to see this rolled out too. I changed my Google account to use a passkey and would like to be able to use that key to sign in on Orion they same way I do in Safari.

Vlad

patrick Would you be able to export your google paskey? and you would expect to have an import feature in Orion?

patrick

Vlad The passkey I use in Google is in my iCloud keychain. So the ideal for me would be that Orion hooks into passkeys from iCloud keychain or 1password's. But I'd be okay with Orion having its own passkey store too.

From my perspective it's no big deal to have to create an Orion specific passkey for each service where I use one.

Nezteb

Some relevant links:

trappem

Now that 1Password is officially supported, is it possible to implement this, at least for 3rd party password managers, in Orion?

njyo

HELP!
Somehow I was able to set up a Passkey on AWS with Orion on desktop (sorry, I didn't take screenshots), but now I cannot log in anywhere as Orion goes into an infinite loop and Chrome/Safari both do not find a Passkey on iCloud…

From Safari:

and

So it seems like Orion has set up a Passkey but I don't know where it was stored, but it seems to have not synced on iCloud. I do use 1Password, but I don't seem to be able to find the Passkey there either…

Thanks for the help…

Vlad

njyo Orion does not support passkeys, lets start from there.

coco-kazoo

1Password just open sourced their library for WebAuthn clients to support passkeys. I think a browser like Orion would be considered a WebAuthn client, right? Might be useful.

https://blog.1password.com/passkey-crates/
https://github.com/1Password/passkey-rs

thuvasooriya

Passkeys are for convenience and not to replace passwords ryt?, I have my android devices as passkeys, and each desktop browser has it's own. I was able to create new passkeys from all chromium browsers and Safari too, so why Orion won't implement this as a feature is still puzzling to me. I'm sorry if I'm missing something, but this is what I think.

shiv

+1 on this, switched from Arc because I was only using it for vertical tabs and profiles (which I later found out exist in both FF and Chrome rip), but the only thing that feels "missing" is passkey support.

jmaguire

Passkeys are now GA in 1Password, coming to LastPass later this year, with Apple supporting passkeys on macOS 13 and iOS 16+, and Android 14 will have support for passkeys via password managers.

I am contemplating a switch from Firefox right now and this is notably missing.

sylvae

What does your feature entail? What is it for? How will it affect existing workflows or user experience?

It's kind of a dealbreaker for me right now that Orion doesn't have full Passkey support- If I need to sign into a website that I have a passkey saved on my iPhone for, I wouldn't be able to since it doesn't give me the choice. The picture above is the prompt that shows on Orion when using FIDO2- note the lack of an option for a passkey.

What are the exact ways that you see a user using your proposed feature? Please go into as much detail as possible, and provide examples of how other browsers/apps implement this feature, if applicable. If your feature suggestion adds on to an existing feature, how would it work into it to extend its usefulness?
Rather than using its own FIDO2/Passkey prompt, Orion should hook into the native api use that instead.

Vlad

sylvae Can you dig up more information about the native APIs?

Dustin

Vlad

Is this helpful?
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/authenticationservices/public-private_key_authentication/supporting_passkeys

segfault

Possible duplicate of https://orionfeedback.org/d/3025-support-passkeys?

I would also love passkey support, at least as integrated with the 1Password extension!

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