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It's not as useful from a power-saving perspective, but having the ability to (easily) globally disable cookies/JavaScript/web fonts would be a privacy boon, especially if paired with the ability to disable this as-needed (rather than globally).

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    necopinus YOu can do exactly that in Settings -> Websites. You can disable these globally, and turn them on locally, per site. Does that make sense?

        Yes. Probably okay to close this one, though I tend to think it makes sense to mirror options between desktop and mobile unless one platform simply lacks a given feature.

        (Playing with this a bit makes me think that the ability to sync website settings between desktop and mobile might be a good idea - some sites are quite difficult to figure out the right combination of domains to allow. But that would obviously be a different suggestion, and not something that makes sense in the current iteration of the mobile interface.)

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          necopinus Morry worrinyg is that you did not realise that you can do that in desktop version although it has much more detailed and granular controls than the mobile versions. What do you suggest as some easy wins?

              I really think that this was a fail on my part. I've been primarily using Chrome-based web browsers for a while (mostly Brave), and the per-site settings interface on those is just bad. So I just glossed over the "Websites" tab.

              I can see that Orion is closely paralleling Safari's setup, which makes sense right now. I'm not sure I'd change that.

              I'm not sure I like any of the "solutions" I can think of right now. Most are likely to be confusing for more users than they're clarifying for:

              • Duplicating the toggles under "Browsing".
              • Creating a new top-level section in "Websites" called something like "Site Defaults" that holds (or duplicates) the default toggles.

              Or alternately, they're just not very Mac-like:

              • Adding some explanatory text at the bottom of the "Browsing" pane with a link that opens up the "Websites" pane.
              • Adding a checkbox to "Browsing" that functions like "Data Saver", toggling off cookies, JavaScript, and web fonts by default and making the corresponding drop-downs under "Websites" insensitive, probably with some short explanatory text.

              The last of these is closest to my original idea, but now that I see how Orion is handling things in practice, I'm less thrilled with that idea.

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                necopinus

                I've been primarily using Chrome-based web browsers for a while

                This is exactly the kind of user we want to attract, and why it is important for us to understand and cater to such users. Not everyone will have the patience to discover how a native browser that follows Apple's HIG works. Bad UX practices of Chromium-based browsers on macOS are unfortunately widely spread.

                I think that Data saver makes sense as a top level toggle, but I would put it under Tools, just below Low power mode. It is a top level, very powerful feature that you need to find in a instance when you are, for example, camping and have very poor connectivity. Tools-> Data Saver Mode... and you enable a powerful preset configuration.

                That works?

                    Given the current phrasing of that menu item, that makes sense. (I tend to think of menu toggles make sense for for things that you want to use on a temporary or short-term basis, while Preferences is for settings that have some degree of permanence to them. And while my particular use case for Battery Saver is more "permanent", the way the feature's framed right now is definitely more "temporary".)

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                      necopinus This is likely to be temporary in practice, as it will break 90% of popular web.

                          necopinus To achieve this level of control, you can use standard Orion features as already discussed.

                              Sorry, I was trying to make light of me for being a weirdo when it came to this feature (the other request is the mobile counterpart to this thread, because I kinda do want to have this functionality set up semi-permenantly).

                              Thank you for getting me to look at the Websites pane on desktop more carefully (really, at all!).

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