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Show native video control option in settings
4 months later
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Safari's default video player is simple and always works. I have an extension called Vinegar which forces youtube into using Safari's default player as well. It would be great if Orion had this built in. A standard video player would greatly increase the usability of the web.
It doesn't have to be safari/apple's video player. Could be stylized to fit in with Orion but having it standard for all html5 video would be great.
I think this is a good idea because I havent been able to find any extension that replaces all embedded videos with the default html5 video player for chromium-like browsers
Merged 3 posts from Default to Apple HTML5 Video Player.
Ok I think we can have this as a global website setting.
It would be called "Video Player" and have two options "Site default" or "Native HTML5"
In website settings we can have this below Auto play option.
3 months later
Any update on the status? This would resolve a few audio and video issues that others are reporting with Youtube, too
MarcAbrams Which ones?
I am also worried a bit about discoverability of this feature for newbies. Is this a power user feature only?
24 days later
Vlad I think it may be fine as a starting point to be in settings?
Another option that I kind of prefer is having it as a option under the right click menu for a video. Usually thats how you access PiP so theres a lot of foot traffic in that flow so many user will be curious if they see a "switch to native player" option. It also means that any sites where the native video player breaks, users can easily switch back to the site default player.
Comment to say this should also be flagged for Orion mobile. I use Vinegar on iOS safari to make YouTube tolerable and with PiP.
3 months later
I keep trying Orion (or any other browser) and then find myself missing Vinegar every time I use YouTube. Having the ability to use the native player is a great feature that Orion would really benefit from.
2 months later
Vlad I don't think it's a power user feature only. Though, basic users might not know about this feature, because they mostly use Safari without any extensions on Chrome where you cannot install such an extension.
I guess you should make something like "Introduction to the new feature and why is it better". Or simply make it a default.
IDK, it's just better for most websites, IMO.
5 days later
Came here to say that I've tried to use Orion on iOS multiple times (for first-class Kagi support) and every time I try it, the singular reason I switch back to Safari is the Vinegar extension. It might seem like a trivial feature, but forcing the native player on any sites that try to give me their crappy video "experiences" is so valuable to me that I will choose a Safari solely over that feature, even if Kagi is better in every other way.
Sadly, I have not been able to find a Vinegar equivalent for chromium-based browsers. It would be fantastic if Kagi could provide this feature out of the box. My hot take is that I don't even think it should be a power-user feature but rather the default experience (opt-out in settings). Give websites and companies an inch and they take a mile - there is a native video component for a reason, it offers best-in-class (and predictable) support for features. Imagine if every website tried to make their own text box component instead of using the native one, what a nightmare. Skip the ads, skip the crappy JS video player.
If Orion can implement this (or enable Safari extension support) I will immediately switch over.
3 months later
any status on this?
Planned for 127.
