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Vlad I don't think it's a power user feature only. Though, basic users might not know about this feature, because they mostly use Safari without any extensions on Chrome where you cannot install such an extension.
I guess you should make something like "Introduction to the new feature and why is it better". Or simply make it a default.

IDK, it's just better for most websites, IMO.

      5 days later

      Came here to say that I've tried to use Orion on iOS multiple times (for first-class Kagi support) and every time I try it, the singular reason I switch back to Safari is the Vinegar extension. It might seem like a trivial feature, but forcing the native player on any sites that try to give me their crappy video "experiences" is so valuable to me that I will choose a Safari solely over that feature, even if Kagi is better in every other way.

      Sadly, I have not been able to find a Vinegar equivalent for chromium-based browsers. It would be fantastic if Kagi could provide this feature out of the box. My hot take is that I don't even think it should be a power-user feature but rather the default experience (opt-out in settings). Give websites and companies an inch and they take a mile - there is a native video component for a reason, it offers best-in-class (and predictable) support for features. Imagine if every website tried to make their own text box component instead of using the native one, what a nightmare. Skip the ads, skip the crappy JS video player.

      If Orion can implement this (or enable Safari extension support) I will immediately switch over.

        3 months later
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        sweetpeaches

        I just wanted to add, that vinegar is also the sole thing, which Iā€™m currently missing from mobile Safari. Vinegar was also the reason for me to check how to add Safari extensions into Orion.

        Iā€™m glad that the implementation is planned and looking forward to it!

            24 days later

            If a vinegar equivalent was implemented in Orion, I would switch over in an instant. Huge fan of y'alls progress so far, keep up the good work!

            4 months later

            Was this implemented in 127?

            If so, where is it?

            • Vlad replied to this.

              Vlad Thanks!

              Is there a new date or version number for its implementation?

                6 days later

                We definitely need this feature šŸ™šŸ¼

                2 months later

                I would like an option to force videos to play in the native iOS/macOS media player. Many websites have media players that lack basic features such as scrubbing and skipping forward/backwards. It is also nice to have a consistent media player experience across websites.

                The extension StopTheMadness Pro for Safari offers this feature

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                    6 months later

                    Is there any update on the release of this?

                    • Vlad replied to this.
                      a month later

                      Love my Kagi family membership! Lack of HTML5 video player for YouTube in particular is keeping me from Orion. Super excited to see this! Is there an update on timeframe? Or has there not been an RC since Dec 2?

                        • Ggp

                        • Post #40

                        In the meantime until it lands in RC, the "extract" (no ad blocking) variant of vinegar works on Orion desktop if you load the Safari extension.

                          • Yyyz

                            • Post #41

                            Perhaps it could be ready at the 5 year anniversary of this original request. Iā€™m now a paid subscriber to Kagi and sure would like to see this with Orion browser.