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Whenever there is a slow site that somehow bugs the browser out, it affects the entire browser and all the tabs.
What should be done instead is to isolate the performance usage, and set out a minimum performance buffer zone that no website can go over so that the browser cannot freeze.
Browser benchmarks also freeze the browser, so there needs to be a permission toggle for a website to use over 75% of your resources.
Also needs a resource intensive notification like Safari. Uncontrary to other users, it is a useful indicator. It is stupid to not have one especially if you have tons of junk sites and have no clue which one takes resources due to poor scripts.

  • Vlad replied to this.

    I ran into this issue the other day.

    WARNING: This page vvv immediately engages your browser in a DDoS style attack on Russian news websites!
    https://stop-russian-desinformation.near.page/
    WARNING: This page ^^^ immediately engages your browser in a DDoS style attack on Russian news websites!

    I clicked on it from this HN post (not that this is relevant to the issue directly): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30498740#30498867

    Opening the page freezes Orion. I had to force quit Orion, disconnect my wifi, then open Orion, to close the tab. If I just restarted Orion, and tried to close the tab using the tab close button on the tab, it loaded the page too fast and froze Orion.

      5 days later

      Cannabat I am not able to reproduce in 112.5 (something weird happens, but it also does in Safari). Can you show a video of what you see (Orion vs Safari)?

          Vlad I've just updated to 112.5, still occurs, here is a video. I get the beachball cursor in the Orion windows after loading the URL but the recording does not show this. Both Orion windows totally freeze and I cannot switch tabs, though I can switch/focus each window

          Orion 0.99.112.5-rc (WebKit 613.1.12)
          macOS Version 12.2 (Build 21D49)
          MacBookPro18,3

          • Vlad replied to this.
              16 days later

              Vlad No change, it still totally freezes Orion - Version 0.99.113.2-beta (WebKit 613.1.12)

              In case this helps, my Safari is now Version 15.3 (17612.4.9.1.5), and there is no problem opening the page on Safari still, it is responsive. I am behind one macOS update, currently on 12.2 (21D49)

              • Vlad replied to this.

                  Ever since I updated to 0.99.113.2-beta, I've been getting random freezing. It affects the whole browser, and I'm not sure what triggers it. This wasn't happening when I was one 0.99.113.1-beta. I'm sorry I can't tell you how to reproduce it. Is there a way for me to downgrade to 0.99.113.1-beta?

                    We have not been able to reproduce this. One thing to try is to disable any extensions you may have.

                      TheAllegedGenius For a few versions IIRC, but also haven't attempted to reproduce without extensions disabled as Vlad indicated

                          7 days later

                          I am also getting random freezing that occurs very regularly. It happens on all sorts of sites (Gmail, GitHub, Chrome Extensions page). I have done a clean install and this happens with and without extensions installed.

                          Version 0.99.113.2-beta (WebKit 613.1.12)
                          macOS 12.3 (M1)

                          P.S. This same Orion version works fine on another Mac (also 12.3 with an M1).

                          Also getting random hickups and freezing with 0.99.113.2-beta on M1. Suspect it’s coming from longer use/multiple open tabs for Github issue pages, since I don’t have anything else open than the intranet site I’m working on, which is a quite simple Rails app which only uses jQuery and Rails-ujs. When looking at Activity Monitor, Orion is working at 60-90% and it seems that the busy thread is the main thread since typing is slow and jittery.

                            I, too, have been experiencing random freezes. On Version 0.99.113.2-beta (WebKit 613.1.12) and the previous version. (M1 MBP, macOS 12.2.1)

                            I can't say with any authority if there is a pattern to why it happens or when it happens, but along with the Apple mouse scrolling issue, together these issues are making the Orion experience too chaotic at the moment. Too nascent to use as a browser just yet.

                              @Electronic_Cost I'm interested in one of your comments. You have 2 M1 Macs with identical set ups (same version of Orion and same version of macOS) and Orion is fine on one Mac, but freezes on the other. Is that so?

                              How can that be so? There has to be some difference i.e. screen size, amount of ram, connected peripherals etc.) Can you go into more detail, please?