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I'm a keyboard-focused user. In Safari, using any of the default search engines, the URL/search bar displays my query as if I'd typed it into a input. What's nice about that is, if I need to modify my search terms, I can do command+L and then use standard Mac text navigation shortcuts (e.g. ctrl+A, ctrl-E, opt+delete etc)

This feature alone has kept me in Safari for years. No other browser seems to do this.

Additionally, command+L followed by command+C copies the actual search engine URL into the pasteboard, instead of the keywords.

I realize the Kagi plugin for Safari can't provide this behavior, but I was sort of surprised Orion doesn't. I have to hit tab 5 times to start modifying my search terms, which slows me down like 5x (assuming I don't hit command+L by instinct - that might actually cause me to use a pointing device!)

It would be especially amazing if I could choose to use vim or emacs key bindings, but just the same functionality Safari has would likely convince me to use Orion (and donate/subscribe).

You can demo the behavior I want in Safari, using any of its supported search engines.

Type some words into the search/URL bar and hit return. You don't have to do anything to start modifying the terms. Use the arrow keys, option+arrow keys, etc. Hitting escape twice should undo your changes

    eyemyth Are you using iPad + keyboard here? Does Orion on iOS have the behavior you describe?

        I'm just using Orion on a Mac. I don't typically use iOS devices with a physical keyboard, and I haven't tried Orion on iOS

        I do know that Safari on iOS has the same behavior for the search/URL bar, and I navigate around there by long-presing the space bar to get the text cursor, and by double tapping words etc.

        • Vlad replied to this.

          Vlad Oh, sorry about that. I didn't notice that I did that.

          I actually did try Orion for iOS and it works just like Safari

              In case you don't know, on desktop, Kagi has keyboard shortcuts at the web site level. Hit the slash key (/) on a Kagi search results page to move focus to the search field. Type "?" to bring up the keyboard shortcuts help screen.

              Of course, that is Kagi-specific, so if you are using a different search engine then it wouldn't apply. I certainly see the value in having this feature at the browser level rather than the site level.

              eyemyth Additionally, command+L followed by command+C copies the actual search engine URL into the pasteboard, instead of the keywords

              FWIW, I've always found this behavior in Safari to be counterintuitive, and it's tripped me up many times. I don't think a text field should ever copy something other than what it visibly selected. I can't think of any other Mac software that behaves like that.

              If Orion adds this functionality, I hope it will be with a little more attention to standard UI conventions.

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