Changes to Orion's Sidebar / Vertical tabs handling

Vlad

Zitro I think it looks far worse as you canot even see the full URL, but leaving it here for upvotes.

infinitesharkattack

This is kinda nice on Arc when the sidebar automatically hides away and gives you the full window to browse (especially for normal daily use where you don't really need to know what the URL is anyway).

I don't know if the Orion team really wants to just be rebuilding Arc in Orion though (I assume not)

Longely

Yeah i dont think full URL is important to the majority of people just browsing, examplified with Safari just showing the base website URL and only reveals full when clicking in the adress window. (an aproach which could be adopted in a sidebar URL)

Im not a sidebar user myself. but would consider it if all information and functionality got moved the the left. instead of only some. instead both top and left side getting cluttered

I can also understand if the Orion team this early doesnt want to replicate the feature wich at current moment is kinda Arcs thing that seperates them.

But i think its a matter of time before there aproach gets adopted as an option by other browsers. since it gives you even more vertical space without any loss of functionality

eirk

Longely yeah, i agree. only the domain part of it is the most important, and also to help prevent phishing. for lots of people, the rest of the URL isn't important

alakhpc

GreyAsteroid

Almost there, unfortunately there's no way to remove the top toolbar and items are only allowed on the sidebar if the "sidebar" item is there. I really think think if the "sidebar" item could be removed there would easily be enough space to peep the domain name of the majority of websites while leaving extra items to the overflow menu.

Vlad

GreyAsteroid How did you do that? 🙂

GreyAsteroid

Vlad If the sidebar toggle icon is added to the toolbar it makes it possible for any element to be placed on the sidebar as well. However, if you resize the sidebar to a small enough size, everything but the sidebar toggle icon will be pushed back onto the main toolbar. 😅

0xCUBE

Similar to Arc browser, but not necessarily the same. Since the sidebar would have so much vertical space, the search bar, extension icons, etc. could all be put on there. It would be a great option to save vertical real estate, especially on ultra wide monitors.

whitemamba

Like the screenshot of Arc, where the URL bar is in the sidebar, A button and keyboard shortcut could be added to show the toolbar again.

Vlad

whitemamba Orion has numerous toolbar buttons, where would they go?

davidkaya

@Vlad maybe a small vertical bar on the right side, as Microsoft Edge added?

whitemamba

davidkaya I like that as a potential idea.

alakhpc

A pop-out on hover toolbar like this is also an option

yokoffing

Concept images (many based on Arc) are beautiful!

Dhuv

I like the option of having tabs on the left but it would be a better experience if the toolbar on top was removed when that happens. Orion's implementation seems unintuitive. Let me explain the 2 options that are more intuitive to me.

Safari's implementation of tabs in toolbar where the URL bar is for the active tab
Arc's implementation where the tab bar is on the left and no toolbar (shortcuts to get to URL bar)

With Orion's implementation, opening a new tab (in the foreground or background) makes you wonder where the other tab(s) went. When users see the URL bar, they expect to see tabs as well. If you are moving the tabs, hide the toolbar as well so users

I would expect that when a user enables tabs on the left, the webpage takes up all the space on the right.

Check out how Arc feels when using it throughout the day. It seems very natural. Something that would benefit Orion users as well.

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