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This sounds a good idea, and agreed that existing "safety nets" are quite lacking... Also proxying the API would be non-trivial at scale, unless you wanted to build out infrastructure to do that quickly (i.e. some kind of cache-or-fetch-and-cache)

Realistically most users will get to a bad site either via a search engine (more likely... an ad on a search engine, which Orion + Kagi will avoid), or clicking a link in email. That is handled by most webmail services now (and even some non-web mail) by their protection systems that rewrite links (yuck... but it works for non expert users I guess).

For a real targeted attack you will use a new URL that isn't on a blacklist, so I guess these measures have reducing value in an era of free SSLs and cheap domains!

2 years later

I think that if someoen wanted something along these lines, they could get something similar-ish with a DNS-based blocking system, such as nextDNS, controlD, etc

though some "adblocker" extensions, eg uBO, also can block these websites, if you set them up to do so

    2 months later

    Steps to reproduce:

    secure http(replace with <https>)://sv.kuvio.cfd/AwETGAx_Pw9CEdkIpVGEkRveeAusJQ6cPxDCX6_pY6DgcYS5_8pNr-ux_8VM2Qscz_ELQYmQj8xx_k3yhjoRTtj1x2_e5E-Bcoiz16wXkTVErQ==?ci=5858952518452624914&n3er=yZSq5A==&fn=Microsoft%20Powerpoint%202019%20VL%2016.46&sd=759782&uu=lIaJhrzOpHZ7iXp6d32Oenx9iHk=!<

    Expected behavior:
    I shouldn't be able to visit this webpage. It could have some mysterious zero-day and the whole system is infected.

    Orion, OS version; hardware type:
    Orion 0.99.125.3-rc

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    • Vlad replied to this.

      btw its a good idea to replace https with smth like hxxps to prevent it from turning into a hyperlink

        Orion is a web browser and is supposed to allow you to visit any site possible.

        Even Google’s safe browsing does not block all malicious links. There’s no way to block a threat that isn’t yet known to exist. Unless one could see the future, it’s impossible to proactively block all malicious websites. This is not a problem that Orion can do anything about.

        Instead what you should do is upvote the post for custom blocklists.

          Vlad changed the title to Block Malicious sites .
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              Vlad Are there any open source networks which have a database of blocked sites? Custom blocklist?

              • eirk replied to this.

                  Fortrikka yes.. there are plenty. basically any filter list used by any adblocker.
                  including steven black, osid, easylist, notracking, adguard lists, etc

                      eirk Would it be possible for Orion to implement such a network without incurring privacy loss, i.e. google safe browsing sending all dns information constantly to google's servers?

                          Fortrikka It would but there is not standard what is a malware site which makes ithis difficult, biased and opinionated to implement.

                              eirk What are the best custom blocklists?
                              And would they block sites such as these novel ones which may have a hidden zero day?

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