Tab group management - order of the groups in the menu

Vlad

Good idea to manage them from the Libray window

cob-nobbler

Awesome!

DekoMoon

I love the idea of Orion. The only thing holding me back is this. I have 10-15 tab groups on Safari right now. Each tab groups are sectioned next to each other like this: relaxation section, school section, and productive section.

Could you implement a way similar to Safari's tab groups where you can drag around named windows, and maybe also a 1-layer folder system where it can store an infinite amount of named windows (but it can not store other folders)?

Vlad

DekoMoon Can you specify what would the UI implementation of this look like, given how Orion manages tab groups currently?

DekoMoon

For organizing tab groups, maybe something similar to how Safari do it with theirs in the sidebar, where you can drag around tab groups like bookmarks. For the folder system, maybe a system similar to the bookmark system except that folders can't be inside another folder, and the state of a tab group are saved (url of sites I visited and did not close) after a set time of closing or when too many open & closed tabs are in the background?

For the folder system, I was hoping for something similar to Workona's. I used to use this extension before they turned it into a SaaS.

Vlad

Note that Orion has the option of Vertical tabs which Safari doesn't. Not sure how to marry the two efficiently.

vladstudio

The window switcher (found on top-left of Orion toolbar) is a great way to switch contexts. I personally use one window for "personal" unordered stuff, and then one window per project.

An important missing feature for me is being able to reorder windows here:

and here:

I want to be able to always have the personal window on top of the list (accessible by Cmd-Opt-1). This is a case in screenshots above, but only by accident :-)

Vlad

vladstudio Can you propose actual UI/UX for doing this?

vladstudio

Yeah this is probably the duplicate of https://orionfeedback.org/d/2382-tab-group-management-order-of-the-groups-in-the-menu (unless Tab Groups are not the same as Windows, but seems that they are!)

eirk

Tab groups are windows

Maciek

This is actually how it should work by default. When you select another window, the previous one should be closed. If someone wants not to close the previous window, they should choose an option "open window" or sth like that. However, by default it should work like Safari Tab Groups. I don't need to have 5 windows open at the same time. It's unproductive. Even if I wanted, I would open them manually. I need a quick solution.

eirk

You can make a separate request for this.

Maciek

eirk There is one yet, but they seem not to see this is important. Sad :/

vladstudio

Maciek - in the defense of the development team, managing priorities is one of the hardest parts of creating any product (especially as complex as web browser). I'd even go as far as saying that the skill of saying No (or at least, Maybe Later), despite what we (users who request features) want, is the most important skill of a great product manager.

Maciek

vladstudio But the point is that you even didn't say NO. The thing I hate about developers is that they always think they know best. They judge the idea only by themselves, not asking anybody else for their opinion. That's just rude, cause you're not the smartest, guys. You're not end users. Create apps for users, not for developers or designers.

eirk

Maciek Bruh?

eirk

There's this entire feedback website and the discord server to ask for the end user's opinions

eirk

More than 1200 users here, and over 11k messages. 2.3k members in the discord server. Not asking for anybody elses opinions? Being rude???

vladstudio

eirk I think this level of rudeness can be safely ignored.