Search invocation keywords should be added to manage search engine

gabrielchow

As both chrome and Firefox already had multiple search engine search. There's extension for that for safari, however.
For example: after setting up keyword "bing %s" for searching for "bing.com/search?q=%s", type in "Bing abcde" it'll be searching in bing for abcde instead of the default google engine as set.

reayn

duckduckgo bangs (e.g. !b and whatnot) fix precisely this problem. IMO implementing it on a browser level instead of a search engine level is kind of overkill; I have seen this feature in both chrome and firefox but have always preferred just using ddg bangs instead, saves a few keystrokes.

spirit

reayn is it available in the kagi search engine?

gabrielchow

Nvm just discovered a feature called "bookmark invocation keywords" in Orion but would've been great if I don't need to add a bookmark.

donut

Currently, the address and invocation character/keyword fields are only accessible via the edit bookmark dialog. This makes the feature very difficult to discover. Even for users who have used similar features in the browsers, this is an unintuitive place to look for it.

The minimum ask is that an invocation keyword field is added to the search engines add/edit dialog [Preferences > Search > Manage > +]. I suspect that's where people who have used these features before in other browsers are most likely to look for them.

Original card: https://orionfeedback.org/d/1548-duckduckgo-style-custom-bang-searches/5
Sibling card: https://orionfeedback.org/d/1600-add-address-invocation-characterkeyword-fields-to-add-bookmark-dialog

donut

Related feature requests:

Vlad

The minimum ask is that an invocation keyword field is added to the search engines add/edit dialog [Preferences > Search > Manage > +]. I suspect that's where people who have used these features before in other browsers are most likely to look for them.

verve1n

Vlad On firefox you get this feature by right-clicking directly on the search input field of the website. Firefox generate the input search field automatically. You just need to add the keyword.

c-alpha

While you're there... It is currently compulsory to fill in the "Suggestion URL template". As I'm not using suggestions, I have to fill in a space character. Please make filling in the "Suggestion URL template" field optional, by allowing it to be empty. Thanks!

Vlad

c-alpha Please make a new issue for that.

c-alpha

Vlad Done (#1681).

verve1n

i managed to make it work with rateyourmusic.org but not with YouTube. is there a guide for how to extract search template from websites?

Vlad

verve1n Please make this a seperate feature suggestion post

brahim

Vlad

brahim It is aleady possible https://help.kagi.com/orion/features/quick-searches.html

brahim

I tried it, it works, Here's how I used to do it in chrome, it's more simple and organized
https://loom.com/i/5283e7cd8d6d4a98bb4b028c713d5b39

EnderPicture

brahim link leads to 404, but I do believe chrome way is better, tab to enter search mode for a specific search engine

ex:

you + enter = youtube.com page, as it is a top hit url
you + tab = youtube search mode, now I can enter in a search query

if not tab, some sort of indication that a search is happening would be nice.

Vlad

EnderPicture It is not clear how would Orion know how to search a site. I tried kagif+tab in chrome and it did not give me kagifeedback search. I then laoded kagifeedback.org in chrome and after that it still did not give me ability to search it with kagif+tab.