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What I need is just the ability to disable the pinch to zoom default behaviour, which is to launch the tab switching UI. Once that's disabled, I can then use those tools as usual I believe. Vlad, could you consider a single check box to disable default tab switching gesture control?

Would disabling pinch out to tab overview be acceptable for everyone here?

    I would be fine losing that behavior. I honestly only ever triggered it accidentally and never found it useful.

    Thanks,
    Wes

    5 days later

    Vlad

    If that will solve the issue then I'm fine with that. But, it doesn't sound like it'll actually solve the underlying zooming issue on websites. It sounds like a separate issue/feature/tweak.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong.

        @Vlad You are correct, I don't believe it will fix the underlying issue. I filed this bug well before pinching out to tabs overview was implemented.

          I don’t think it will solve all issues, certainly not where apple does something bespoke etc (maps). But I believe it will help on websites that have more generic implementations and stop accidental pinches (a huge frustration of mine personally). I was having no issue with Miro, Lucid, or Figma (I think) when using browsers without this pinch to switch tab mechanic.

          Personally I think the pinch to switch tab toggle is a good first step. If that solves x% of the problems that’s still an improvement for presumably little effort. I’d rather that now, than wait a year for something perfect.

            16 days later

            Vlad The optimal solution It would be disabling the pinch out to tab overview/zoom while the cursor is over a canvas (like in Chrome)

                @pow_ext I don't think so. There are uses for pinch to zoom outside of canvas elements.

                  wes I mean, it would at least cover most of the cases, like maps, documents, google docs and so on.
                  Chrome does use this method, you could try like in google maps, pinching to zoom over and off a canvas.

                  More edge cases, that are maybe needs still to be found and specified in this thread, are probably gonna be covered with some extra fix

                      a month later
                      Vlad changed the title to Pinch/zoom getures not forwarded to browser .

                        Steps to reproduce:
                        The mac touchpad zoom gesture zooms the whole webpage instead of the embedded file (pdf). This works perfectly fine in other chromium or webkit based browsers, so I guess this might be a bug? It can be reproduced with any websites using Adobe Acrobat's online reader.

                        Expected behavior:
                        Zoom gesture is expected to zoom in/out pdf rather than zooming the whole webpage.

                        Orion, OS version; hardware type:
                        Orion Version 0.99.124.3-beta (WebKit 616.1.14.11.1)
                        MacBook Pro (macOS Ventura 13.4 build 22F66)

                          PS: zooming gesture acts in a similar behaviour with the default pdf viewer in Orion. So it's not specific to adobe's pdf viewer.

                            orionlover changed the title to Touchpad zoom gesture always zooms the whole webpage instead of zooming pdf files .
                              Merged 3 posts from Touchpad zoom gesture always zooms the whole webpage instead of zooming pdf files.
                                a month later

                                Could there be some temporary solution while Apple/WebKit deliberates on fixing this or the Orion team figures out a way around this? I find this to be a key gesture on websites such as Google Maps which are rather painful to use without this (so much so that I just end up opening a different browser).

                                Perhaps giving users the option to disable pinch-to-zoom on a site by site basis be a temporary workaround? I personally don't make use of the gesture at all (and normally use ⌘+ or ⌘- for zooming in/out). But this would allow me to disable the gesture for Google Maps, Figma, Miro, etc. and actually make them usable on Orion.

                                  7 days later

                                  I'm a designer by trade so this is a particularly tough issue to work around

                                  For those unaware, the same zoom behavior can be achieved by ⌘+scroll. Hopefully this gets native support soon!

                                    2 months later

                                    As others have said, this is a particularly dissapointing issue. It makes Orion unusable as my daily driver (and I'm very ready to switch to it).

                                    Hopefully the WebKit team will listen but seeing as this reported issue goes back to January 2022, it seems to not be important to them.

                                      Keep making your voice heard, WebKit team is usually repsonsive.