Steps to reproduce:
The windows should stay open with their current tab groups and shouldn't switch.
Version 0.99.131.2-rc (WebKit 621.1.2.111.4)
Sequoia (15)
Steps to reproduce:
No such bar should appear.
Version 0.99.131.1-rc (WebKit 621.1.2.111.4)
Sequoia (15)
There should be no horizontal line visible.
Version 0.99.129.4-rc (WebKit 621.1.2.111.4)
Sequoia (15)
The toolbar overlaps with the vertical tabs sidebar when the "Always show toolbar in fullscreen" is disabled.
Steps to reproduce from a clean profile:
The toolbar should not overlap with the vertical tabs sidebar.
Version 0.99.129.4-rc (WebKit 621.1.2.111.4)
Sequoia (15)
I am able to reproduce the issues with the following steps:
albertcsanjuan Quoting Vlad from another post:
Making features opt-in is the worst thing we can do from a development standpoint. It take more time to build (you are now doing 2x, 3x... work),it produces more bugs and and it makes it harder to maintain (Orion works on macOS 10.14!). This is why we are looking for reasonable defaults and options only if we have to.
To put things in perspective:
Arc - built on top of Chromium so got the browser app framework for free. Only option for the user is vertical tabs. That's it, if you do not like you are out of luck. Team size >100.
Orion - building with WebKit, browser app needs to built from scratch (no Chromiuim equivalent for WebKit). Orion supports Horizontal tabs, Vertical tabs, Compact Tabs... Multiple other customizations avaialble. Built as fully native Mac app. Team size 5.
Let's not ask us to add more options, but find ways to remove existing options instead and have good constructive discussions that will produce sane defaults. Thank you
I would also like to note that both the vertical tabs and standard tabs layouts have a separate address bar, so that would make the compact tabs layout the only one that doesn't have one.
Ok so I have been using Orion for a few months at this point, and I made the switch from Safari quite early on. In the beginning, I too found Orion's way of having a separate address bar in compact tabs mode unintuitive. However, it seems that was just a result of me being used to the Safari way, and now I have become accustomed to Orion's implementation and have no issues with it. In fact, the address bar not moving around is much better. Therefore I believe there is no need for Orion to try to adapt Safari's style of compact tabs when its own implementation is superior.
Vlad Summarizing the last few posts here, we seem to have reached a consensus on the following issues/features:
#8917 The bigger margins will help separate the tabs better, and the chevrons being embedded in the tab icon will also prevent the tabs from jumping left to right.#8933 Having a separate panel for all the non-vertical tab sidebars on the right hand side will make the behavior related to hiding/showing those tabs while in vertical tabs mode more intuitive, currently there are a few recurring issues regarding hiding/showing the other sidebars while in vertical tabs mode, which would all be fixed.For now I would encourage everyone to either show support or express their concerns regarding these two issues. Once their future is decided, more divisive topics can be discussed.
IMO most of the use cases mentioned here are covered by the planned tab folders feature, only their display behaviour in horizontal tabs mode seem to be different.
Giving my two cents her regarding @milos mockups: I have to say I am against this new concept of tab groups. We already have a lot of group structures in Orion (Profiles > Windows > Tabs) and this just seems to add another level of complexity on top, while being a less flexible version of the already planned tab folders.
The idea of having the all the sidebars other than the vertical tabs one on the left side is a good idea ane I am all for it. This will also give a solution to all the problems regarding how to handle opening/closing of a sidebar while in vertical tabs mode.
This open source Firefox Extension for iCloud passwords might be a good reference: https://github.com/au2001/icloud-passwords-firefox
It requires a verification code on startup but its better than nothing.
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}I am able to reproduce the crashes with this:
Toggling windows/reading list sidebar on and off causes the vertical tabs sidebar to appear while still being in horizontal tabs mode.
Steps to reproduce:
The vertical tabs sidebar should not appear when the windows/reading list sidebar is hidden while being in horizontal tabs mode.
Version 0.99.128.2.1.1-rc (WebKit 619.1.11.111.2)
Sequoia (15)