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I would love if Orion implemented some sort of a popup similar to Arc's find dialog that turns into AI prompt if there are no results and you press enter. The AI then takes the contents of the currently open webpage, runs your prompt on that data, and returns response in a popup, where you can ask additional questions, or easily close it up with an Esc key.

You could integrate this with Kagi's AI features (Ultimate users I guess), but if a user doesn't have a suitable Kagi subscription, you could offer an alternative, to enter your own OpenAI API key, and it would run off that.

Right know Kagi has a summarizer, which takes the URL of the currently open webpage, and summarizes that up. But the problem is that you cannot ask additional questions on top of that.

Additional issue is that if the site has a restricted access, summarizer will fail.

I really like the way Arc has implemented their popup, here is an example:

They have an additional feature, when you click on "Find on page" link, it scrolls to the quoted text and highlights it on the page, but this is just candy on the top.

Personally I really dislike the sidebars for this, a popup over the page feels more convenient, and doesn't change the width of the content.

    9 days later

    I might have seen this before, can you check if there is a duplicate?

    • frin replied to this.

      Vlad perhaps this one (eirk found this one), but it only mentions summarizing the page, not actually interacting with the page content: https://orionfeedback.org/d/7032-summarize-the-current-page-by-text

      Also the current summarizer is a fixed sidebar and you cannot respond to it. Theres 3 key differences that I'd rather see with this post:

      1. popup within the page with an input as an easy access to provide a prompt
      2. ask anything about the current page, be it to summarize, ask specific question if a topic is handled in the page for example, and optionally ask additional questions
      3. parse currently loaded page, as current summarizer cannot access restricted URLs
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            23 days later

            Yes, great feature, I would love for it to be extended upon all opened tabs.

            9 days later

            I agree, I would love more Orion + Kagi integrations to use Kagi AI features directly in Orion.

              10 days later

              This is amazing on Arc. There were a couple of my classes where it actually like saved me and I would go to Arc specifically to use it.

              • Vlad replied to this.

                Vlad So specifically for me, one of the things that I around to be the most impactful was when I found a page that specifically explained something, like the specific views of a philosopher for example, but then I could ask a question and it would give me a brief answer and show me where in the text it got the answer from. It was amazing for writing papers and doing research because it let me get to the meat of what I wanted to know, rather than sifting through an entire page that is 90% completely irrelevant. That part of it was nice because it let me choose my own sources and focus on which ones I thought would help the most, rather than an AI doing that part of it.

                    20 days later

                    AI summarization is a useful feature but, in my opinion, opens up a can of worms on the implementation side e.g. where does the model sit, is there any local processing, does Orion implement a subscription model to cover the costs of running AI models for the users etc.

                    I believe the most straighforward way that keeps the problem somewhat compartmentalized feature-wise is adding an option to provide an OpenAPI API Key (or Gemini, Claude etc.) and only focus on having the browser send the appropriate contents, metadata, images etc. to the 3rd party API endpoint and parsing whatever response comes back.

                    There is naturally the question of privacy in all of this but by only having the browser act as a proxy between the webpage and a third party system, the burden of accepting the privacy risks is on the user. I would argue that it also prevents polluting Orion's perception as a privacy-conscious browser, since AI is synonymous with lack of privacy in many circles.

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