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I've seen unclickable tax happen on Twitter.

    New info: Inspector opened from the developer menu seems to work. I can't click on the page, but I can click on the inspector.

    Had an Orion WebApp freeze like this for the first time.

    1. Create a webapp for Discord
    2. Launch it
    3. While the Discord loading animation plays, resize the window
    4. Step 3 has a good chance of resulting in the webapp being in a frozen state. This, however, was not 100% consistent.

      New info: Using the accessibility inspector from Xcode, I can interact with the window. In this screenshot, I open a context menu.

      WindWalker Same here. It happens on the current version(0.99.127.2-rc) more frequently.

          Happened for me on Version 0.99.127.2-rc (WebKit 619.1.1). I was just browsing https://www.darktable.org. Really makes Orion unusable for me because I don't want to risk e.g. starting to fill out a form only for the page to become unresponsive.

          Happened to me on 0.99.127.2-beta (WebKit 619.1.1) just now: I clicked a link on a website, then I used the Back button and now I can't click anything on the website anymore. (Reading and scrolling works just well.) I have it happen on Bandcamp quite often though, which is especially annoying as not being able to play anything on Bandcamp (kind of) defeats the reason to use Bandcamp.

            Is this reproducible to the Orion devs in the meantime - meaning are we on the road to get that fixed?

              Passing this on from our Discord, anybody who is facing website freezing randomly in 127.2 we got a workaround (as we got the root cause, so until we release new version, you can use workaround)

              Run below command in Terminal

              Orion Beta
              defaults write com.kagi.kagimacOS WebKit2UseRemoteLayerTreeDrawingArea -bool false

              Orion RC
              defaults write com.kagi.kagimacOS.RC WebKit2UseRemoteLayerTreeDrawingArea -bool false

              And relaunch Orion.

              Let us know if this fixes the issue you were facing these days.

                Applied the workaround. I'll report if it happens again.

                Vlad
                @dino Despite running those commands I encountered a frozen tab. Will continue monitoring the situation. Overall it seems to happen significantly less frequently.

                For what it's worth, it seems all my frozen tabs have happened on websites that continuously refresh (think discord or a forum/imageboard where new messages are loaded seamlessly without requiring the user to refresh the page)

                  I came to this thread because this issue has become so bad, it almost makes Orion unusable for me. I applied the fix, but within a few second the issue reoccured.

                  Update: it got way, way worse. There is only a couple of minutes before the issue reoccurs after a restart. Mouse over stops on all tabs now. Even rendering issues of mouse over menu's occur on different sites. In the last 40 minutes I think I had to restart the browser 20+ times to just keep working. It seems that the issue occurs faster when more tabs are open.

                  I'm working a lot in Wordpress, which is where the issue mostly appears for me. Most of the page stays usable, but links and editing of text or other elements stop working. I know when the issue starts, because the hover over function of my cursor stops working, which means the cursor of the text editor also disappears. Weirdly enough, the copy/paste function between taps stops working also.

                  The only way to fix the issue is to completely quit Orion, and restart. Just closing and opening the affected tab does not help at all.

                  I'm running Version 0.99.127.2-beta (WebKit 619.1.1) on MacOS 14.4.1 (23E224)

                    Megabits Yes I did. Didn't make a difference for me. But maybe I didn't do it correctly. I copy and pasted it into Terminal, hit enter and restarted Orion.

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                        Sometimes, you open a website and you can't click on it.

                        The only way to navigate on the site is close the tab and reopen again.

                        I have Ublock Origin installed but it is deactivated.

                        I would expect to navigate without issues.

                        Orion Beta 0.99.127.2-beta (WebKit 619.1.1)

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