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very happy to hear that!!!

    KDE is preferred, but WebKit is more important and currently that is in the Epiphany web browser. Just minimize the use of libadwaita, and you can make it more well-rounded across platforms or go the path like other browsers that do no rely too much on GTK or QT.

      • Dustin

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      clintre

      I think it would be a mistake not to build the browser behind GTK and libadwaita. IMO, the WebKit project on Linux is WebKitGTK anyway but the ease of building an app with first-class convergence/responsive design and full gesture support with touch is really not worth throwing that away for 8-10% of the tiny desktop Linux market which are not using GTK by default.

          Dustin GTK I have no problem with, libadwaita causes more problems with styling on other DEs. GTK itself is not the issue. It is why I had the caveat that WebKit is more important because it already exists within Linux and to simply minimize the use of libadwaita specifically vs GTK. GTK is more required. Would be better if it was neither, but that would cost too much development time to re-create the client-side.

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            Vlad

            hooray!! 😃

            Does "at day 1" mean that if we subscribe to Orion+, there would be a linux version available as a beta - or something else?

                • Llaiz

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                23oreironfb0609 Does "at day 1" mean that if we subscribe to Orion+, there would be a linux version available as a beta - or something else?

                Not quite yet. I am sure that availability will be clearly communicated here as soon as it is ready for Orion+ subscribers to test.

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                    Vlad is there any way for paying customers to build it

                        Looking forward to the Linux build, be it on Gnome or QT (I personally use KDE, but whatever works best for you guys is the priority!). I would also like to chime in for the development; I just subscribed to Orion+ just to support the browser!

                        Would also vote for GTK/WebKit! Hopefully it also makes use of the latest adaptive GTK so it works well on the nascent Linux mobiles like the FuriLabs, Purism or Pine phones.

                        Vlad I would chip in 100 for a kickstarter to see it come to linux. My biggest issue is I daily drive all 3 desktop OS's currently + android. Sync is important to me (namely history, tabs, extensions, and favorites). Which is why I'm mostly stuck either in firefox land or chrome. And neither do it perfectly. But I'm eager to try something new on linux.

                            Winks Well, my solution is nextcloud for everything basically... I sync my history, tabs, bookmarks etc. through it, but I also know there is xbrowsersync that works really well too!

                                Vlad

                                Vlad Gnome and Apple share some design principles, so I think veering towards the Gnome technologies would result in a more cohesive experience for Orion overall 🙂

                                      While I agree that since Gnome Web is likely the best base, it is essential to ensure that it works and looks good across other desktop environments. It is unfortunately one thing that libadwaita is not great at. Gnome Web does a solid job of this, but it is not true of all GTK/Gnome apps that use libadwaita, especially when used on QT based DEs like KDE, which like Gnome is a huge user base.

                                        Casting my vote for Gnome and WebKit. I too avoid all things chromium. I'd love to see and enable more competition in the browser space.

                                        I'm a fan of Kagi, and I'd like to be able to add another privacy friendly option into my tool set. Google/Chrome moved away from what originally drew many of us in from the early 2000's. Firefox is having controversy stir yet again, and they love telemetry, which was OK when it's only about making the product better. Removal of the promise to never sell your data from the TOS isn't going over well in some spaces.