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  • Vlad

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We are waiting for Apple to allow us access to the built in Translation API in the macOS. This is the most privacy respecting and the most efficient way to get translations in the browser.

In the meantime there is a new project which does local translations in the browser

https://browser.mt/

They have a firefox extensions and it works great in Orion. No 3rd party services are used for translation and it works even offline.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/translatelocally-for-firefox/

    Vlad

    On what sites have you gotten this to work?

    Its the same as i mentioned previously, but never got working

        nevermind, got it to work now on some sites

          2 months later

          Vlad is this supposed to work for mobile as well? Hoping there is a translation solution on iOS as well, but have so far been unsuccessful with the extension you mentioned

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              obroc what do you use in other browsers on iOS?

                  2 months later

                  Vlad Initial testing with this is quite good, thank you. With this, I am going to swap back to Orion full time. The reason I went back to Safari was for native translation. I have noticed that Microsoft Outlook for Mac can use the Apple native translation now, so I am hoping Orion can use this soon? I genuinely have no idea how Apple and their API's work in relation to software development, but in the last of 18 months of Apple updates in iOS and MacOS, the native translation functions have both improved and are available more often when using them.

                  • Vlad replied to this.

                      mattheja

                      Microsoft Outlook for Mac can use the Apple native translation

                      Can you share more details about this and how do you know it is native system translation?

                          Vlad

                          I should not assume it is I suppose, but if I right mouse click the same German text in my Outlook for Mac app v16.80 23121017, and then also in Apple's Notes, the UI elements are identical and translations are identical. In Outlook, if I select the language dropdown, then "more languages", it opens up my MacOS settings General>Language&Region>Translation Languages. I'm on Sonoma 14.2.1.

                              2 months later

                              I would like to propose as a test-case reddit.com or old.reddit.com . Afaik on iOS there’s no translation extension that works for this website on Orion, but Firefox on the desktop can do it with TWP. Safari on iOS has no control for target language if the user has picked multiple languages as understood: if Reddit itself shows some UI in English because that’s how the user account is configured, but comments are in a different language, Safari picks as target language the second in the list of user languages.

                                Note that Orion already has "Translate ..." available in the right click menu when you select some text on the page. This is inherited natively from WebKit/system.

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                                  3 months later

                                  Vlad This is a great extension, but unfortunately it doesn't work on the mobile version of orion.

                                      15 days later

                                      TDV Yeo we saw that, it is great news.

                                          4 months later

                                          It would be cool if Orion had something similar to Chrome's Google Translate.

                                          If it's implemented as part of the browser then it can be much more powerful than an extension.

                                          In future iterations maybe it would be possible to leverage local LLMs or bring your own key LLM services instead of Kagi Translate, although I think people would just pay for Kagi + Orion.

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