Keyboard modifier to invert "open new tab next to current tab" behavior

Vlad

remerson Is there any browser that implements this?

eirk

yes, safari. this is also a duplicate post, trying to find it

remerson

IIRC Safari does 'New Adjacent Tab' for Cmd-T, and 'New Tab At End' for the + button on the toolbar. But it calls them both "New Tab", which is slightly unclear.

Vlad

remerson Can you show these options in Safari together with their shortcuts?

remerson

Vlad I can show the difference.

Here is Safari with three tabs and the first tab focused:

If I hit Cmd-T I get a new tab next to the previously focused one:

But if I click the + button on the toolbar, I get a new tab at the end of the (horizontal) tab list:

Safari does not have a preference to change this behaviour. To my knowledge the keyboard shortcut and the toolbar button are both just called "New Tab" even though they don't do exactly the same thing.

Vlad

Hm so what is exactly the ask for Orion?

tuesday

Vlad The primary request: holding “option” will invert new-tab location behavior from the setting in Orion preferences (ideally, for both the keyboard shortcut and the toolbar button).

Separately, remerson would also like the new tab toolbar button behavior to be handled independently, but I don’t have much of an opinion about that, so I’ll leave it to them if they’d like to clarify that request.

remerson

Vlad Hi Vlad, I'll try to summarise:

"New adjacent tab" and "new tab at end" should be separate actions.
By default, match Safari: Cmd-T does "new adjacent tab"; + button on toolbar does "new tab at end".
I suggest the + button at the end of the tab list also does "new tab at end", because that's where it is.
Per @tuesday's request, holding the Option key should perform the opposite behaviour (so Cmd-Opt-T does "new tab at end", + buttons while holding Opt do "new adjacent tab").
Provide a preference to have the opposite behaviour instead of the default. When this preference is set, holding Opt should perform the original default behaviour.
Perhaps also provide a preference to allow the two + buttons to perform one action each, instead of the same action. Safari's behaviour has only a keyboard shortcut for one of the actions, which isn't great.

lhagan

It's an extension, not a browser, but Tree Style Tab includes this functionality plus a few additional features that I've found helpful:

The "+" button at the bottom of the tabs list has a sub-menu that allows you to open a new tab in several different locations:

In settings, you can choose which of these options is the default:

And you can set custom keyboard shortcuts for each (note that these are my own custom shortcuts; I don't recall what the defaults are):

This level of complexity might be overkill for Orion, but I'd love to have the ability to open a new child tab using a keyboard shortcut in addition to the adjacent (sibling) tab behavior discussed above.

Canis1Majoris

Chrome has it and it's very useful.

Canis1Majoris

So it's kinda works thanks for "New Tab next to current" settings but only in one way: when you want new tab at end as alternative. Because hotkey with ⌥ always work like "New Tab at End" regardless of setting.

When your main preference is new tab at end (like mine) it doesn't. And here is workaround for those like me:

Setup open New Tab next to current in Orion settings
Setup Keyboard Shortcuts in MacOS settings

2.1 New Tab = ⌘ + ⌥ + T
2.2 New Tab at End = ⌘ + T

In conclusion: all you need to add it's dependency ⌘ + ⌥ + T with "Open new tab next to current tab" settings.
When it's checked ⌘ + ⌥ + T works like "New Tab at End"
When it isn't ⌘ + ⌥ + T works like "New Tab Next to Current"