Private mode - Extension data still stays

Vlad

registered You are welcome! Going to close it for now.

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I repeated the experiment cleaning all the data before and I admit I have gotten confused for some reason. It's working now the way it should. I really apologize that I have taken your time being not very attentive myself. I can send you another video but I don't know whether it's worth it if the problem seems to be solved

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Unfortunately, the problem persists. Here's a video. It turned out to be a longer one so I put an outer link to it. Thing is, even the sites data I have not visited at the time appear in the window. I have no extensions for them. And google is always there no matter what. Something's wrong here. https://workupload.com/file/2Ljh57qvZVE

[https://workupload.com/file/2Ljh57qvZVE](https://)

Vlad

registered Can you reproduce this issue without any active extensions?

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I'll disable all the extensions and repeat the experiment and will let you know. May take me a day though, it's hella late here now, 3 am. But I promise I will

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Couldn't help myself. Repeated the experiment no matter what time it is. The result is no extensions - no data. I tried very hard, browsed dropbox and google maps and stuff. Nada.
Extensions that I have usually enabled are
Bitwarden
Downie
URL Shortener

those as a must, then go the ones that are no big deal to ditch -

I still don't care about cookies
Invidious

Those are all I have.
Hope this helps.

PS. As soon as I enabled Bitwarden extension I immediately got this -

Vlad

registered So basically ou are saying that these extensions are saving data? That is to be expected as we have no control over that. What we will do is to disable extensions from running in private mode like other browser do.

Now you also know just how much communication extensions do.

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Vlad
True. But are you at least planning working with extensions in the near future. If I don't have Bitwarden in a private mode that means I can't login to any site. With all respect to you, I still am not sure whether it's a good idea to give browsers handle passwords. Maybe I will anyway in the future but not for now.

I never expected the extensions would save site data to the browser. You kind of opened my eyes. Still, there's a variety of options of extension's behavior in the settings.

Please let me know if this is possible in the future (like, say, updating extensions) to have them restricted from saving browsing data.

Thanks again for a great job with the Orion. With each release I use it more and more. It's going to be a great one if everything goes well.

Vlad

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If I don't have Bitwarden in a private mode that means I can't login to any site.

That is an interesting point. How does Bitwarden do that in Chrome/Firefox?

We can look into extension data it is a matter of balancing everything we have on our plate.

Vlad

registered Another thing.

If extensions were to use private tab session (which would then get destroyed on close) that means they would start from 'scratch' every time, so you would have to login to your bitwarden every time you want to use it in a private tab.

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Vlad I don't use Chrome at all and I use Temporary Containers extension in Firefox which is imho better than private mode. And it's actually LibreWolf, not plain Firefox. So there is no problem with Bitwarden extension.

upd. Just wanted to add that in Safari in private mode everything is clean. Probably because they're using different type of extensions

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I'm not that much of a tech-savvy person to provide the required info on how the extension works in Firefox or Chrome in a private mode. However, it seems obvious one cannot login anywhere while in private mode once his password manager is disabled.

frin

From my point of view, I like having uBlock Origin in private mode and blocking stuff there, by accessing filter lists from normal mode, and adding to filters from private mode, so those two should stay in sync. I don't know how they store that data, but this should still work, as long as I manually enable an extension in private mode. If I manually enable it in private, then that is my own fault, not the browser's concern.

If this storage doesn't rely on cookies, it would be smart to not remember any cookies set by them in private mode.

In Chrome extensions are auto disabled for private/incognito mode, this is a smart default. Then the user can decide and enable it per extension. This could be an additional switch/toggle in Extensions window.

Vlad

frin

This is what we are going to do in the future. users enabling extensions in private mode will ahve to expect they may be gathering data while in private mode.

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It seems that it's not only the extensions problem. In the post where I posted the video, not the one with the link to the video, there are google.com, rusdate.co.il and savetweetvid.com. I never had such extensions and haven't visited these sites at the time. The only clue might be that I have bookmarks to rusdate.co.il and some google services but why they get into the list once I haven't visited them at the time?

Vlad

registered I would imagine that extensions you had were sending data to google (or using google analytics etc). If I remember correctly without extensions installed there was no problem?