Gartunius Can you show a video of this behavior? Can you try Develop -> Empty cache when this happens next time? Can you try to reproduce this wtith zero isntalled extensions?
In principle, I have over 100 tabs open at all times and I do not experience these. I also do not run any extensions so wondering if extensions you have installed are the culprit. The more information you cna provide th efind the root of this the better.
Sorry for the very long delay(work + testing your suggestions), but here are a couple of screen recordings, the first one is showing the responsiveness problem when opened for too long, also I you can see I'm using Ublock there, but I've tried removing each extensions that I was using and no combination would solve(or improve) the problem:
But I ended up with the same problem regardless of the combination, eventually I just went back to Ublock
*Showing the responsiveness problem:
Obs1: I made sure to record the mouse clicks, so you can see when I double click the topbar of orion to get it to fill the screen
Obs2: The screen capture is not lagging
And here's when I reseted Orion, just completely closing it and opening again:
Here I also make sure to record the mouse clicks, so you can see when I do the double click to full screen.
Also maybe it's worth bring up that in general my whole system has gotten more slow with Orion(I don't mean with the app installed, but as Orion gets less responsive, other apps get less responsive too) I'm trying to troubleshoot my system, but what makes me think that "it's Orions fault" is that when I close it things go back to beeing responsive.
I also keept the Activity Monitor open to see if there was a huge usage of CPU and/or RAM, but there wasn't, it was normal, CPU bellow 30%, and RAM around 12/13GB.
I'll post here any updates on troubleshooting.
Gartunius I never seen this but I also use zero extensions. So I am suspecting that one of them is causing this. If you start a new clean Orion profile, without any extensions, I assume you will not have any slowdowns. So what you can do to help is try to pinpoint what extension is exactly causing this.
Sounds like a plan.
Update on the performance issue, for the 3/4 days that I used the new profile withouth extensions things worked well, but scince I installed Bitwarden from firefox the performance after a couple of days dropped again, and now whenever I move Orion between screens I see the same lag as I showed in the screen recording before. Is there anything I can do to help debug the issue?
I know that there's a version of the extension for safari, but I couldn't find a way to install it to test, is that possible? if so how can I do that?
Just a "final" feedback, after I turned on "Low power mode" which from my understanding unloads the tabs from RAM, the issue hasn't happend anymore, even other apps wich seemed to lag stoped having problems, so my suggestion would be something like the extension TabWrangler that auto closes some tabs after a while, something like the ArcBrowser does(I only heard, didn't test it myself), personally I think that would be a better experience overall, still having the instant switch but with more controll over which tabs stay open/loaded into RAM.
Considering the issue only occurred with extensions and disappeared with low power mode, I wonder if there’s some background processes that extensions are allowed to run when tabs normally aren’t. When low power mode is off, there appears to be limits for tabs but extensions run unchecked.
I noted in your screenshot you have Ublock Origin extension installed. Any chance you have forgotten to disable Orion's baked in content blocker globally as is necessary to prevent them interfering with one another?
Any updates on this? @Gartunius
I have experience the same thing - fresh instal of MacOS 15.2, roughly 60 tabs open, 2 extensions, Orion crashed. I believe the reason is because of the extensions, however these are fairly popular extensions vimium (lightweight) and startpage (lightweight) but that doesn't mean they dont have a memory leak. However I cannot confirm that.
Can someone look at the crash report to verify this issue? It feels like if you want to use Orion Browser you shouldn't use any extensions, is that fair to say?
JadZeineddine Sorry to add but I just sent the crash report around 1AM central time January 29,2025 and put my email in the crash report incase you want repro or access to my machine (<mylastname>.<myfirstname>@<most popular google email domain>)
0.99-132.0.0.3-Beta
I've been trying Orion out for the last couple of days on a brand new Mac mini M4 and I was super stoked that I found a browser similar to Safari but support of extensions. But this joy has been short lived.
While at first speedy and fast, it doesn't take to long before Orion becomes slow and sluggish. And it's not the extensions. I've disabled them and reseted Orion. Still after 1-2 minutes it becomes slow and sluggish. And it doesn't feel like it is the web speed. Hitting refresh webpage it sits around doing nothing for 2-4 seconds then it loads. And that doesn't happen the first 1-2 minutes after you reset, those few minutes it has the same performance as Safari.
And other browsers on the same system works fine no matter how long or many extensions. I hate to say this but I will abandon Orion now despite loving everything else with it. But performance is king and Orion simply doesn't have it.
0.99.133-beta, macOS 15.4.1
Same problem here. About 20 tabs open, most are sleeping. Bitwarden (Firefox) is only extension. Browser becomes sluggish after a while. Some tabs, especially YouTube, consumes a lot of memory, but both CPU and memory usage is within what I would call normal. I tried to flush the cache, it didn't help.
Edit: I installed Bitwarden for Chrome instead of the Firefox version and Orion has been behaving well so far. As others have mentioned this might be an extension issue.
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