80

Steps to reproduce:
Use it normally and keep 20 tabs open

Expected behavior:
expected to work with less memory

Orion, OS version; hardware type:
Orion 0.99.121-beta (WebKit 614.1.20)
macOS Version 13.0 (Build 22A380)
MacBookPro17,1

Session Info:

Enabled Extensions:

  • uBlock Origin (firefox)
  • 1Password – Password Manager (chrome)
  • Dastyar #1 Personal Assistant in your new tab (chrome)
  • Save to Pocket (chrome)
  • Tab Snooze (chrome)

Disabled Extensions:

Non Default Settings:

  • AutofillEnabled => 0
  • OfferSavePassword => 0
  • NotificationsEnabled => 0
  • ContentBlockerLastUpdated => 1401-07-29 00:00:00 +0000
  • isBackgroundImageDarkOnStartPage => 1
  • overflowMenuItems => (
    )
  • WebAutomaticSpellingCorrectionEnabled => 0
  • WebContinuousSpellCheckingEnabled => 0
  • WebAutomaticQuoteSubstitutionEnabled => 0
  • WebAutomaticDashSubstitutionEnabled => 0
  • ShouldShowWelcomeAnimation => 0
  • ToolbarConfiguration => {
    "TB Default Item Identifiers" = (
    windows,
    navigationGroup,
    NSToolbarFlexibleSpaceItem,
    privacyButton,
    websiteSettingsButton,
    locationBar,
    bookmarkButton,
    addTabButton,
    NSToolbarFlexibleSpaceItem,
    shareButton,
    tabOverview
    );
    "TB Display Mode" = 2;
    "TB Icon Size Mode" = 1;
    "TB Is Shown" = 1;
    "TB Item Identifiers" = (
    windows,
    navigationGroup,
    NSToolbarFlexibleSpaceItem,
    privacyButton,
    websiteSettingsButton,
    locationBar,
    bookmarkButton,
    addTabButton,
    NSToolbarFlexibleSpaceItem,
    "webExtButton-aeblfdkhhhdcdjpifhhbdiojplfjncoa",
    "webExtButton-niloccemoadcdkdjlinkgdfekeahmflj",
    "webExtButton-pdiebiamhaleloakpcgmpnenggpjbcbm",
    "webExtButton-c878c543393a2bec28a2919edee44e6e",
    downloadsButton,
    shareButton
    );
    "TB Size Mode" = 1;
    }
  • BrowsersFromDataImported => (
    Safari
    )
  • FirstLaunch => 0
  • FirstTimeWebExtensionNotice => 1
  • HyperlinkAuditingEnabled => 0
  • LastUsedBuildVersion => 121
  • WillInstallUpdate => 0
  • PreCompiledContentRuleListVersion => 121
  • LastCrashCheckDate => 1401-08-08 10:10:31 +0000
  • NetworkPredictionEnabled => 0
  • NextDownloadID => 19
  • OverridenNewTabPage => chrome-extension://ebilacdhmebcihmbjgibcbeaihbecapj/override.html
  • PasswordSavingEnabled => 0
  • SavedWindowSize => 1440.0,810.0
  • SavedWindowPosition => 0.0,65.0
  • BookmarksSidebarVisible => 0
  • BookmarksSidebarWidth => 164
  • QuitWithConfirmation => 1
  • ActiveLibraryTab => extensions
  • ActivePreferenceTab => websites
  • BookmarksLastSynced => 1667124634251.023
  • ReadingListLastSynced => 1667124634267.045

  • Vlad replied to this.

    HadiFarnoud Please understand that this bug report does not carry any useful information. Maybe you loaded a 20GB file into Orion? We can't tell from one screenshot how did you get into this situation.

    What you want to have is steps to reproduce the problem and comparison with a similar browser (Safari) in similar circumstances (same settings/extensions running) along the way.

      Vlad I have not done anything unusual. I opened Orion and after a few minutes noticed the Force Quit window.

      In fact, since I migrated from Safari, exact same tabs were open.

      • Vlad replied to this.

        HadiFarnoud We would need steps to reproduce this problem. I have Orion with 30 tabs open and RAM usage it is nowhere near what you experience.

        So can you write steps as in

        1. Open Orion
        2. Open news tabs with urls x, y, z
        3. notice high ram usage
          6 days later

          Vlad I do not have that information. so, I'll report back if this happens again

          3 months later
          Merged 5 posts from Orion is using 21GB of memory for not that many tabs.

            Steps to reproduce:
            Tabs open;
            https://boxofbooks.io
            https://snowflake.haesemathematics.com.au/users/sign_in
            https://quillbot.com
            http://www.gcatholic.org/calendar/2023/AU-en.htm
            https://www.google.com/search?q=tapas
            https://www.google.com/search?q=croquetas#imgrc=rwDfOjYNdUQycM
            https://orionfeedback.org/d/2117-higher-ram-usage-compared-to-firefox-safari-w-steps-to-reproduce/2

            Tried compatibility mode but it still uses high amount of RAM

            Expected behavior:
            to not use so much RAM.

            Orion, OS version; hardware type:
            Version 0.99.122-beta (WebKit 615.1.11.7) MacBook Air (macOS Ventura 13.0.1 build 22A400)

            Image/Video:

              Merged 1 post from Orion using an extreme amount of RAM even with 7 tabs open.
                16 days later
                a month later

                Steps to reproduce:
                Orion using 32 GB of RAM. I have about 70 tabs open. See attached pic. Several are reddit, several are instagram, several are Google. This isn't expected behavior, correct? I can exit and reopen to see if it builds back up.

                Expected behavior:
                Less RAM Usage

                Orion Version 0.99.123.3-beta, OS version Ventura 13.2.1 (22D68); Macbook Pro M2 Pro:

                • Vlad replied to this.

                  jmm6486 It could be expected behavior, depends what you have in those tabs. Please note that this is not a proper bug report by any means.

                  Even if this was some kind of a memory leak, how would we go about finding the cause based on this report? You want to have reproducible steps.

                    Merged 2 posts from Orion using 32 GB of RAM.
                      3 months later

                      Problem:
                      Orion appears to have a memory leak, even when doing absolutely nothing in the browser.

                      Steps to reproduce:
                      Open Orion, do nothing, profit. (video)

                      Expected behaviour:
                      Orion sitting around expected memory usage.

                      • Vlad replied to this.
                        3 months later

                        I had one YouTube tab which went to 1GB.
                        All of my tab groups were suspended.
                        Waking up my Mac after couple of hours, RAM usage went to 700MB just for Orion RC app. When I have quitted the browser fully, I freed around 3GBs. As I see it, memory leaks can be caused due to the tab that is active for a long period of time, and in my case, due to sleep mode.

                        Version 0.99.125.5-rc (WebKit 617.1.6)
                        Build date Oct 3 2023

                        • Vlad replied to this.
                          Vlad locked the discussion .
                            9 months later

                            Memory issues have been reported previously but I've gathered that new such issues continuing with 0.99.128-rc should be reported again.

                            The issue I am seeing is growing memory usage over time with overall slowdown. WIth 24 tabs over 13 windows (including this one), new windows can take 1+ seconds to open and sometimes typing gets slow (not terrible but not "snappy").

                            This instance of Orion has been open about 4 days and the main process is showing almost 5GB in Activity Monitor.

                            After quiting the above session, Memory Used was 6.4 GB (down 6 GB from above), App Memory was 2.7 GB (down from 6.7 GB), Compressed was 1.1 GB (down from 2.5 GB), and Wired was 2.5 (down from 3.1 GB).

                            I've also saved a Sample of the main process if helpful.

                            Note this is not repeatable in that I can give a concise list of steps to repeat but it is repeatedable in that memory usage eventually gets this way after several days (usually more than 2 and in this case 4). Also if I don't quit and restart after enough time, Orion crashes (I'm guessing it runs out of memory).

                            Ideally Orion's memory usage woud be a function of the windows/sessions open and not change over the same time. That is memory usage over time shouldn't go higher than Orion after quitting and restarting with All Windows From Last Session.

                            Here is Orion after resuming the session from All Windows From Last Session:

                            Here is Orion after making sure to touch after tab on every window:

                            The biggest difference then seems to be that the Orion RC main process and Networking process are much bigger and this leads to more Compressed memory. But then as I am guessing the data in Compress memory is part of Orion's working set so the system has to keep compressing and uncompressing Orion's data which causes it to feel slow.

                            Version 0.99.128-rc

                            Catalina (10.15)

                              4 days later
                              Merged 1 post from High memory usage over time.
                                No one is typing