Infinit reload

John-Poplett

I experience the exact same behavior (infinite loop) many times each and every day. Today, I installed the first RC, Version 0.99.136.1-rc (WebKit 623.1.8.0.0), and the problem remains. It is rarely the immediate page I get to after a web search but seemingly always after I select a button on that website to go so a secondary site.

Here is a URL from RottenTomatoes that exhibits this behavior:

https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/one-battle-after-another-first-reviews/

As the OP observes, the same URL that evokes this behavior in Orion RC loads and behaves as expected, renders a page without repeatedly reloading, in Safari.

Searching for a workaround just now blew away a tab group (yikes), but I also discovered that by disabling Javascript for a site that exhibits the behavior, i can get the reloading to stop.

Maybe there's a common JS library that is a trigger?

PaulTrubert

Same problem here - opening this page loops indefinitely opening/closing:
https://www.sfr.fr/cas/login?service=https%3A%2F%2Fwebmail.sfr.fr%2Faccueil%2Fj_spring_cas_security_check
Orion
Version 0.99.136-beta (WebKit 619.1.11.111.2)
Date du build Sep 3 2025
Mac mini 10.14.6 (assemblage 18G103)
Thanks for your attention
Best regards

laiz

@John-Poplett @PaulTrubert
Are you able to reproduce these reload loops on a fresh Orion profile? (File → Profiles → New Profile…)
Both pages work as expected on both Orion and Orion RC for me.

Another helpful thing would be a video of you reproducing the issue.
Thank you!

John-Poplett

laiz I created a second profile, opened a link to this discussion, then tried the link the "offending" link.
In the new profile, it loaded properly without issue.

My primary profile, where I have the issue, has 27 saved windows, many of them with dozens of tabs. Most of them are suspended at any given moment.

I don't know what to conclude from this exactly.

Let me know if I can help further the investigation.

Thanks.

John

Orion
Version 0.99.136.1-rc (WebKit 623.1.8.0.0)
Build date September 29, 2025
Mac 15.6.1 (Build 24G90)

John-Poplett

laiz Also, whenever I do encounter this failure mode, I find that disabling Javascript for a given site, stops the bad behavior. So something in my old profile PLUS Javascript execution (e.g. Ajax callbacks) are involved in the infinite loop behavior.

John

John-Poplett

laiz I selected the Settings -> Privacy -> Orion Reset... dialog and reset everything that was selected. I apologize that I don't have a screenshot of the selected items though i thought I saw it had all options checked. After the reset, the infinite loops have disappeared.

If I encounter the issue again, I will try to go through the reset options systematically to narrow down the problem area.

I hope my workaround will help Paul or lead to better a precise fix.

Thanks,

John

laiz

John-Poplett After the reset, the infinite loops have disappeared.

That's great to hear! Let's hope things stay that way. If I had to guess, one of these was the key to fixing the refresh loops

John-Poplett

laiz Odds are it was the last option "Empty local storage and databases". I had tried just the first three before without luck so, yeah.

Thanks for spurring us on.

Cheers,

John

PaulTrubert

to laiz:
thanks for the tip - unfortunately, it doesn't help

to John-Poplett:
thanks - I did exactly the same as you. Disabling javascript stps looping, but doesn't help as page unusable.
Orion rest in privacy tab goesn't help.

Attached video capture.

Thanks for your attention
Best regards

laiz

PaulTrubert thanks for the tip - unfortunately, it doesn't help

Hey Paul. To clarify, does the same issue happen on a fresh Orion profile? (File → Profiles → New Profile…)

PaulTrubert

laiz Yes

John-Poplett

laiz, Paul,

Problem crept back in but only as I started putting things back that the reset took away. This time I tracked it down to the Zotero Extension for Firefox. I reproduced the problem using Paul's URL and then toggled / the Zotero Connector on and off. On, the problem exists. Off, the problem goes away.

John

PaulTrubert

Thanks John.
I have no extension installed.
I have the crash report details, but too long for a post. Can you guide me for a .txt file attachement?
Thanks in advance.

RoxyRoxyRoxy

PaulTrubert You could upload it to a file sharing site or email it to me at gustavus@kagi.com

John-Poplett

PaulTrubert Sadly, no. I haven't done attachments on this site. The difference in our experience is perplexing.

The only commonality between our experiences besides the end result seems to be a dependency on Javascript. There might be a clue in the Javascript that gets loaded with your reference URL

In your case, I'm guessing you have a registered SFR mail account and your login id and password are already saved by your instance of Orion RC. I wonder if the trigger has to do with the code that populates the login and password fields for you?

What if you go to Settings -> Passwords and disable the Password AutoFill options as an experiment?

John