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A feature that "pops out" page textareas into standalone text editor windows. This provides a low-distraction writing experience for users that is free of annoyances and limitations caused by the pages these textareas are contained in.

This is particularly useful for any kind of longer form writing, e.g. blog posts, forum posts, bug reports, emails, etc and can come in handy for users of multiple workspaces and monitors, since it allows page textareas to be moved independently from the host browser window.

The only implementation of this I've seen was in the old NeXTSTEP/Mac browser OmniWeb back in the mid-2000s. The UI that OmniWeb used for this, if I recall correctly, was a small button added to the top right corner of textareas in their scroll well, but should that prove infeasible a context menu item and/or menu item under the View or Tools menu might also work. I think the OmniWeb implementation only updated the text in the page textarea after the user closed the standalone window but I say for certain.

  • Vlad replied to this.

    jwells89 I can not even imagine what this is. do you have any screenshots/mockups?

      Apologies for the lack of clarity.

      I dug out my old PowerBook and tracked down an old version of OmniWeb to demonstrate with the following screenshots.


        jwells89 How is it supposed to work? On any text area? I have an old G4 I can check this with Omni too later.

          I believe it worked on any textarea. At the very least it worked on just about every forum reply box I came across back then.

          The UI might be a little more challenging now that scrollbar tracks aren't always visible, maybe a floating button of some sort could do the trick.

            I just fired off OmniWeb 5 on Tiger, and nothing happens when I click into a text area.

            I think activating on every could be jarring anyway. Interesting idea, I'd like us to think through this more.

            Yeah, it doesn't trigger unless the user clicks the little button on the top end of the scroll track that the cursor is hovering over in the screenshot. Agree that it triggering upon textarea focus would be irritating.

            • Vlad replied to this.

              There is nothing of the sort that I see. Can you record a video?

              jwells89

                Had trouble getting a screen recording program working on the Powerbook and had to get an emulator set up to record on a modern Mac.

                The version of OmniWeb recorded is 5.1.3, which can be obtained at Macintosh Garden.

                • Vlad replied to this.

                  jwells89 Thanks for the effort. I love this 🙂 Orion has a couple of these quirky features from old browsers (eg Tools -> Show Color picker) and this would fit perfectly into the theme - and is useful.

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