Block Third Party Cookies

joystmp

This is very important from privacy perspective.

Vlad

joystmp Already by default from ITP (Orion is relentless as far as protecting user's privacy on the web on default settings). Any ideas how to communicate that better to users?

catch-22

pieterv

catch-22 I think the most relevant setting for this request is "Tracking Prevention" in the same window.

joystmp

https://webkit.org/tracking-prevention/ says two things -

The default cookie policy for WebKit on Apple’s iOS, macOS, iPadOS, tvOS, and watchOS is to disallow a third-party to set new cookies unless it already has cookies.

ITP by default blocks all third-party cookies.

Any idea which is operational in Orion?

catch-22

I'm guessing both? ITP is also under settings and should be on by default

joystmp

Vlad Either in cookies section or ITP section, you can add a line about blocking 3p cookies.

Vlad

Third party cookie blocking is just one of many things that WebKit's ITP does so this is why we have a link to ITP page. Not sure we would have the space here to describe all the things that ITP does.

smurf

If third-party cookies are blocked by tracking prevention, I would suggest saying so on the cookie settings screen. "To block third-party cookies, enable Tracking Prevention" (if it's off) or "Third-party cookies blocked by Tracking Prevention" (if it's on).

Vlad

smurf Can you specify on what screen?

Vlad

smurf What would be the purpose of this ? This screen controls the use of first party cookies.

smurf

Vlad Orion-->Preferences-->Websites-->Cookies. (That's where the on/off for cookie blocking is.)

smurf

Right now, the screen just says Cookies, with a default setting for all websites. That creates an expectation that it applies to all cookies.

One possibility would be to change it to say First-party Cookies. That would clarify what the setting is for, but it might leave the user wondering how to control third-party Cookies. A message directing a user to the seperate setting which controls third-party cookies would answer that.

I think Vivaldi handles this first-party/third-party distinction really well. See attached image. (Fair enough if you want to do things a different way with Orion; I'm just saying the GUI should make it clear what Orion is doing.)

Vlad

We will add ecessary clarifications, thanks for pointing this out.