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evelant ha with 1Password done this is the only thing stopping me from switching so Iā€™m really interested in seeing it working - hope my 3 were similar to yours šŸ˜†

  • Vlad replied to this.

      kulehandluke "this is the only thing stopping me from switching "

      You have no idea how many times I heard this. I only wish you guys didnt all have a different 'only thing stopping me from switching" as that would make our job easy, and not having 2000 open issues!

          Vlad Yeah I can imagine it's frustrating from your side and a ton of work, everyone has their own entrenched workflows they've built up over the years. What you've got so far is amazing though, it's super fast and works well - just hasn't quite hit Kagi level for me yet. I'm not pushing anything my side, just pinging some money and waiting - it'll get there when it gets there. I really like what you guys are doing and wish there were more companies with similar philosophy.

            2 months later

            kulehandluke +1 on this selection of top 2 features for Vimium.

            I love Orion (and Kagi search), but do miss having the f search functionality. I also really like (because it speeds up my workflow) navigating pages with vim keybindings (e.g. j for down, k for up, H for previous page, L for forward a page, gg to scroll to the top, etc...).

            I recently updated to the latest Vimimum plugin (2.04) and can't seem to get it working right (on Orion 0.99.125-beta), so I've left it disabled for now and will wait. It was working for me on an older version (but I can't determine which one it was). I really appreciate all the hard and awesome work!

                19 days later

                kulehandluke I prefer using Firefox extensions because it's not owned by Google, and Google cannot interact with the code or modify it in any way with telemtry.

                  3 months later

                  Hi @Vlad hope you're doing well. Any luck replicating this with the steps provided by @kulehandluke ?
                  Do you need any more info to start debugging?

                  • Vlad replied to this.
                    6 days later
                    a month later

                    @kulehandluke @evelant @Fortrikka

                    Alright well I got the party started on this. The first issue is fixed. Navigating with J and K, viewing highlights with F, and a few other functions now work. It was an issue with WebKit's JSON.parse() not working the same as Chrome or Firefox's implementation.

                    There are some things still not working such as Vimium not getting focus on page load, which means it can't begin typing into the vomnibar or the / search command. Also the / search command is still not working. Something to do with the retrieval of HTML elements by the looks of it in the console.

                    You can check out the release and repository here ā†’ https://github.com/tyirvine/vimium/releases/tag/vimium-2.0.6

                    If you guys work with JavaScript at all please consider contributing fixes. Vlad seems pretty busy and fixing this is something we could totally manage. šŸ°

                    I have a pull request opened up with Vimium so any changes can be added to that and hopefully we can get them merged. If our fixes dramatically mess with Vimium then they probably won't get merged, so keep them as minimal as possible.

                      a month later

                      After some exploration, I finally found that the Vimmatic extension on Firefox can perfectly replace Viumium on Orion.

                      4 days later

                      Vimmatic worked for some shortcuts but not others. 'f" "j" and "k" work, but "?" does not, nor do "H" and "L"

                      So far the most compatible vim extension I've found for Orion is Surfingkeys (from the Chrome webstore). So far everything except moving back and forward in history seem to work, but Orion alreay has keyboard shortcuts for that.

                        As of right now Vimium Chrome does not work at all

                          2 months later

                          Working in vimium (tyirvine's version) & surfingkeys (chrome version):

                          1. Hints ('f' in vimium & surfingkeys)
                            This is a pretty good start. This feature is one of the most important and it's working
                          2. Navigation between tabs (Basically like cmd+shift+]/[)
                            Also important and working.
                          3. Omnibar (in both)
                            Although it can't retrieve tabs icons
                          4. Retriving the url of the current tab + editing it
                          5. Vim editor in surfingkeys (This feaure is exclusive to surfingkeys)
                            Maybe I didn't expect this to work šŸ™‚
                          6. Closing a tab
                          7. Duplicating a tab

                          Bugs:

                          History navigation

                          1. History backward/forward (Basically like cmd+]/[)
                            If you can fix something go for this one and point 2

                          2. Reopening the most recent closed tab
                            Also related to history navigation like point 1

                          Keep in mind that vimium and surfingkeys have problems with point 1&2 but it is capable of showing history in the omnibar

                          Page manipulation

                          1. Scrolling (using J/K or D/U/E) is a bit laggy (especially in surfingkeys, may not be a bug)
                          2. Hints doesn't work sometimes (exclusive to vimium)
                            Occurs if you go backward in history and try to use hints (you will have to reload the page)

                          Others

                          1. Retriving tabs icons
                            This is important in cases like tab switching (instead of reading the text you just look at the icon of the tab)

                          I wish to contribute but I don't program (at least not currently), for those who want a good experience surfingkeys works better in orion than the others.

                          The most important bugs are 1 & 2 (which are related to history) + 3 (which may be the easiest to fix)

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                          13 days later

                          Latest update should have fixed lots of bugs related to Vimium, according to changelogs.
                          I am currently using the extension and collecting feedback, which I will post shortly. There are plenty of features not working properly yet.
                          Updating this comment soon with a full report

                          shebg626 "So far everything except moving back and forward in history seem to work, but Orion alreay has keyboard shortcuts for that."

                          This is my experience as well - although occasionally I've had Vimium stop working midway through a browsing session (e.g. 'f' does nothing) until the tab is reloaded.

                          Vimium's (capital) H and L not supporting back/foward in history (like cmd-[ and ]) is the main annoyance for me now. It feels like this should be one of the easier bugs to fix.

                          For what it's worth, Orion works incredibly well for me now (on desktop and iOS), so I'm sticking with it, unlike a couple of past attempts where I gave up and went back to Safari / Firefox.

                              williamt It's unreliable still and shift-f doesn't work, and it does not recognize the current tab properly, vimium may still be operating on another page instead of the currently focused one, and there are still some unoptimizations that lag the extension on some websites.

                                2 months later

                                I don't see anybody mentioning this, though shift+T doesn't seem to work properly for me. Upon pressing the key for the first time on any new page, the omnibar overlay shows up, but doesn't have focus for some reason. I have to click on it for it to get focus, or click anywhere else on the page to dismiss it (since Esc doesn't work either without it being focused). After this, further attempts at shift+T on the same page always works properly.

                                It seems to be the same for similar functionalities that use this overlay, e.g. shift+O.

                                Edit: I also tried tyirvine's version though it seems to have the same issue.