Admin Question: Orion+ Tax Invoice?

c-alpha

Apologies for the specifically non-thrilling subject (cunningly trying to avoid the "boring" word here 😉), but as reality kicks in we all have invoices to pay, and that expressly includes developers of web browsers. I thus felt inclined to support your work financially and consider jumping the Orion+ bandwagon.

The flip side of this - hopefully considered noble - intent of mine is that I would like to write it off as a company expense, which in turn implies that I'd need a formal invoice which can be presented to the tax authorities here in Germany. In your help files [1] I noticed your reference to your use of stripe.com services. After skimming through their website, I concluded that it will all but certainly depend on what services specifically your have booked with them. So I deemed my research for tax invoice availability on stripe.com inconclusive, and decided to ask my question here.

[1] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/plans/premium-plan.html#managing-billing

Will stripe.com give me a formal invoice which meets Germany and EU trade&commerce code requirements for my Orion+ plan?

gp

laiz

I think that sentence may refer to being VAT (or local equivalent) deductible, since there's no specific tax line item charged.

c-alpha

When paying for Kagi, I got a formal invoice with address, an invoice number, date, amount, subtotal, and amount due. There is an option from Stripe to download both an invoice and receipt, and the receipt confirms that payment was made, and the method of payment received.

From my perspective, this seems like it would be acceptable in most "common sense" regimes as a valid invoice, with a unique reference, company name, and "bill to" details, along with itemised description of Kagi Premium with a unit price and total. Is there some specific requirement your country has? I guess Stripe might give different invoice styles based on country of residence.

laiz

I'm not a tax advisor and have no knowledge of EU tax laws. Nevertheless, from the docs:

Please note that Orion+ fees are not tax deductible.

https://help.kagi.com/orion/orion-plus/orion-plus.html#what-is-orion

c-alpha

gp Thanks for sharing your experience. What you describe does indeed sound like a sufficiently formal invoice.

Stripe do have an EU place of establishment in Ireland (who would have guessed? 😉), so I'd second your assumption that they will - more likely than not - know the requirements.

My question is answered. Many thanks!!!

gp

c-alpha The invoice is issued by Kagi Inc, rather than Stripe (though the PDF is generated by Stripe) - it certainly looks good enough as an invoice to me, albeit one coming from a US company. US invoices look a fair bit different to European invoices, since there isn't the same "company number, VAT number" mindset or requirement (and since things are handled state-by-state it's a bit less simple).

Vlad

Thanks for jumping in @gp added this to FAQ now too