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Vlad
Well, for one thing there’s inherent convenience of using something you’ve been using for a while—bookmarks, open tabs, familiarity of interface. Granted, as far as points go it’s quite trivial, but if the alternative is zero telemetry by default and features that aren’t particularly significant, you won’t get me to switch a browser. Then we have dark mode, which Brave has by default.

Dark mode and interface of Brave aside, Orion is better. On its shoulders is admittedly a very unfair burden of winning over people who are already users of other browsers. Orion could do it, that window is still there—through delivering extensions support. Chrome and Firefox extensions are already available on Mac, so it’s not a little bit confusing to me as to why Orion desktop is prioritized when in prioritizing extensions on iOS there’s a completely unique opportunity of winning over users other iOS browsers, and having them switch to Orion on desktop after. I doubt it would have the same effect in a desktop-to-mobile scenario, in case of Apple ecosystem anyway. And you probably want that ecosystem, since it’s the best bet you have of growing Orion’s userbase. In my unhumble view anyway.

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    Gecko Fair points. The reason we prioritize desktop is because we can get near 100% of extensions working on desktop. That, paired with speed and energy efficiency of WebKit and zero telemetry nature of Orion is what can make Orion the best browser on Mac. On iOS though, the support will at best be around 30-40% due to Apple limitations (we can't modify WebKit on iOS). This means that even with the greatest effort, this will never be a selling point on iOS. There we have to win with native look and feel, features and business model (Brave is in the business of selling ads, we are trying to sell a browser).

      This is getting a bit off the original topic, but when it comes to why i use Brave on iOS sometimes is this:

      https://orionfeedback.org/d/4681-music-playeroption-to-allow-audio-playback-when-app-not-in-focus/7

      I only use cell phone on the go. so watching a youtube video on the train, then its great that I can lock the phone when getting off and still listen to the podcast news or whatever i was watching where it isnt that important to see what is being shown, but more what is being said. or just being able to reply to a text fast, without video stopping

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        Steps to reproduce:

        1. I installed the Dark Reader mode from BOTH the Chrome and Firefox stores
        2. Made sure it was enabled in the settings of the extension and the browser
        3. I have forced closed the app, uninstalled & reinstalled, and removed/re-added the extension

        Expected behavior:
        I expect various webpages to turn dark. What happens is it seems to work for just a moment when I force close the app, but only on initial load. It then fails for every website after that initial force close.

        Orion, OS version; hardware type:
        1.2.10; iOS 17 Beta 1, iPhone 14 Pro max

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          Here is a visual example of what happens/how it doesn’t work properly.

          Orion, OS version; hardware type:
          1.2.10; iOS 17 Beta 1, iPhone 14 Pro max

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                  Dark reader (and a bunch of other extensions) will start working on iOS with the next iOS update planned for next week. Stay tuned!

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