Check Memory usage

wcw

Vlad When you say to reproduce in clean profile do you mean File>Profiles>New Profile... and attempt to reproduce in a new profile there?

Also still a problem in the newest RC.

Vlad

wcw Yes, thanks. This ensures you have same setting as we do and no extensions so any problem can be attributable (mostly) to Orion and hopefully reproducible.

bzgnyc

Vlad Hi Vlad, happy to test the latest RC when it is also pushed out for Mojave and Catalina. Unfortuantely can't switch my main systems to Monterey for the near-term...

heisznberg

Just happened to me as we speak. Will try to gather more info about this, and try to find a pattern to replicate it.
Will post here if I find a clear evidence of how this happens.

Tinholoco

What happened? How did it happen? What are the steps to replicate the issue.
High RAM usage on macos Sonoma 14.0 with just one open tab and window and with low power mode enabled.

To reproduce:

open and and pin some tabs
orion automatically suspends all tabs
open one random tab in a saved window
check for ram usage

What did you expect to happen? Describe the desired functionality.
Lower resource usage with tabs suspended in low power mode.

What version of Orion are you running?
0.99.125.5-rc

Vlad

Tinholoco Please provide exact steps to reproduce, from a clean new Orion profile, otherwise the entire report is not actionable.

"Open some tabs" is not accurate enough.

OmPatel

The below are the same tabs for chrome

The difference is very big. I know that google has a very big team to optimise chrome for mac but it would really be good if you guys are able to bring the Orion ram usage from 1gb to 500mb

Dustin

I can confirm that the latest RC has significant memory usage compared to the 125.4-rc. I will attempt to do a side-by-side comparison of the current RC and the current 125-beta to show the difference in memory usage

Vlad

Dustin Please do.

All we need is steps to reproduce from a new clean Orion profile, not random screenshots 🙂

Dustin

Ok, comparison with Orion RC 125.5 and Orion beta on my primary profiles. The only extension is Bitwarden.

Two tabs, one is the same YouTube video and the other is app.element.io

RC here reports in this sampling 2.5 GB of combined usage

Beta here reports just over 1 GB.

Any processes below those were taking minimal RAM.

I can try something similar with clean profiles that have no extensions but this is some representation of my normal usage.

I will add that since the 125.5 update, I did notice memory pressure in Activity Monitor showing up as yellow sometimes with Orion RC running. That's not a normal behaviour for Orion.

Vlad

Dustin Can you just confirm what steps are.

open orion
open this url
open that url
notice memory usage?

Tinholoco

Vlad yes

Dustin

Vlad

Yeah.

1) I opened Orion and Orion RC
2) Opened a video on YouTube
3) Opened app.element.io which took me to my default room
4) Waited 5-10 minutes for the RAM usage to balloon

That is just a regular usage scenario where I noticed the increased RAM usage. If you are unable to reproduce, I can attempt to find some resource-hungry pages that may make it easier to track down.

Dustin

Further update after a period of time using Orion RC

Two tabs open, the same YouTube and app.element.io as previous test. Additionally, about:, ... seems to be taking a lot of RAM although I don't have any empty tabs or anything of that sort open. Just the two tabs listed.

Dustin

This actually appears to be fixed or at least improved in 0.99.125.6-rc.

Vlad

Dustin Ok if there is a difference please provide exact steps. Is it youtube or app.element.io causing it? Just one tab should be enough to reproduce the issue.

Dustin

Vlad

Ok so I can observe that the about:, ... process still appears to hog memory. What I have done to test this is simply just to open a fresh instance of Orion RC and open YouTube in a single tab to the TWiT Livestream as it's always running. After a period of time, you will start to see memory usage grow and this process starts to report high RAM usage.

However, since the 125.6-rc build, I have been unable to get it to hit Memory Pressure in the yellow, which is an improvement.

This is my main profile with only Bitwarden as an extension. I can reproduce this with a clean testing profile.

Dustin

Opened a clean testing profile with the aforementioned TWiT livestream

Minute 0:

Minute 15:

You can see the memory usage increase by 500 MB over that 15 minute period. It will continue to increase.

No other apps open, no other tabs open.

Vlad

Dustin

You can see the memory usage increase by 500 MB over that 15 minute period. It will continue to increase.

This is not apparent in your screenshot? The total memory of Orion processes went up maybe 150MB? To make sure this is indeed abnormal, please compare with Safari in same circumstances.

Dustin

Vlad I will run the exact same test with Safari and report back. 🙂 The 500 MB increase I pulled from the 'Memory Used' reading in the bottom right corner there. I should have clarified.