Built-in VPN for macOS and IOS

wesvr

A built-in VPN like Brave has more privacy.
Maybe with the choice of the country and which sites, networks, and/or location, you are in

Vlad

wesvr Do you expect it to be free?

xMattPerkins

wesvr it should work more like Opera’s does and only work within the browser itself

Lenni-builder

Brave doesn't have a VPN built in, only Tor. That feature also wouldn't be a VPN (like Opera for example says), it would be more of a proxy

xMattPerkins

Vlad I’d pay for the feature as long as the VPN service used is from a trusted VPN like Mullvad that doesn't collect or link user data. Mullvad would be the best option. If you're gonna choose Nord or ExpressVPN which links user data, then it wouldn't be worth paying for.

celebrith

Honestly, I use Proton VPN. I don't expect the browser to provide VPN. I subscribe where possible to the "do one thing and do it well" philosophy. Adding extra functionality just increases the potential security issues and bugs.
I would certainly recommend investigating Proton (or another VPN provider) if connection privacy is a concern.

I'm new to Orion and Kagi today, but already I like what I'm seeing.

wesvr

celebrith The problem is that you never know what the VPN is doing with your data. There are VPN services that sell user data. So what is a good VPN I ask myself..

celebrith

wesvr Of the VPN solutions I've seen, Proton seems to be the most privacy focused.

dorkbutt

I agree with @celebrith in saying that adding a VPN would cause a lot more issues and bugs that'll need to be addressed. Besides, I feel as though developing a "built-in" VPN could also tarnish the image of Orion among more skeptical users as they learn that they're communicating all of their data unencrypted to the VPN service provider only for them to then encrypt it. It could put more strain on the developers as they have to maintain two monumental services, unless a partnership could be worked out with a service that is reputable. The whole VPN space is still really hazardous, but not quite as much when it first blew up in popularity.

And as I believe Orion has to compete with browsers of all kind, it would then have to also compete with VPNs, which could cause more problems. Unless it is a partnershipm where then @wesvr's concerns come in.

https://www.privacyguides.org/basics/vpn-overview/
https://www.privacyguides.org/vpn/

CrunchyFritos

I think a built-in VPN as an optional paid feature could make some sense, especially since iCloud Relay only works with Safari. In other words, one of the things you’re asking Safari users to give up is effectively a free VPN. I don’t think people would mind paying extra for a VPN since it does cost money and that’s the best way to ensure incentive alignment, and having that VPN as an option would at least allow for feature parity with Safari.

xMattPerkins

It would be a VPN feature similar to what Opera browser offers. One that turns off once the browser is closed.

The feature would be able to be turned on inside the browser to where whenever they start the browser the VPN turns on. It will basically be your version of Apple’s Private Relay.

You could look for a third party VPN provider to make their VPN work only in your browser. The appeal could be seen as advertisement for the VPN and it could get people to buy the VPN if they want more than just inside the browser.

My suggestion is Mullvad since it doesn’t collect any user data. They also might be willing to allow you to use their VPN because they need more people trying their VPN. There is also Orbot VPN which is free.

marcovgl

Maybe not a built VPN, but a separate VPN, like Mozilla does. It can part of the subscription, or an add-on.

moayaan1911

Some VPN extensions like urban vpn and few others are not working fine. An inbuilt VPN servie like in vivaldi would be greatly appreciated

An in-built vpn feature user can select, only few countries would also work

BenSharbs1

You should add a built in VPN with many servers in Orion.

BenSharbs1

Good idea!

BenSharbs1

Yes it is a good idea