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  • Opening multiple tabs in background causes spinning beach ball

  • BugsDesktopDone

Steps to reproduce:
I typically open a bunch of tabs in the background when searching. When I open a new one, it seemingly blocks the main thread causing a spinning beach ball for about 2-5 seconds. It also does not happen immediately after right-clicking open in background. It probably takes about a second or two. Two sites that have a more significant delay are YouTube and Reddit.

My machine is not old, see below. I have also recently upgraded to Ventura from Monterey hoping that it might be resolved but it's not. I typically have many tabs across many windows but I don't experience this in Safari. Safari seemingly leaves the main thread or the current webpage performing as usual while the other tabs loaded in the background.

This is also an Orion specific delay (beach ball) because other applications and processes on my Mac are not affected and I can do other stuff while waiting on Orion

Could it be the storage solution for saving tabs?

I also happen to have more than 100 tabs across all windows but I don't have this issue with more tabs on Safari.

Expected behavior:
Open a tab in the background and continue browsing in the current tab without noticeable delay or spinning beach ball like on Safari and other browsers.

Orion, OS version; hardware type:
Orion 0.99.122-beta (WebKit 615.1.11.7)
MacBook Pro (macOS Ventura 13.0.1 build 22A400) - 16" 2019 Intel MacBook Pro

  • Vlad replied to this.

    I have low power mode on to save on memory but it is the same behaviour whether on or off.

      could you share a video showing orion and safari opening multiple tabs?

        Here's a video

        Orion on the left, Safari on the right

          abayomi185 I am not able to reproduce the problem. You did not indicate if you tried disabling all extensions in Orion and trying with a clean Orion install. This is not usual or expected behavior and something is causing it externally.

              Disabling the only extension I had running has made it better; "Video Speed Controller". Just remembered it was worse when I had Vimium enabled.
              Would you happen know an alternative I can use?

              • Vlad replied to this.

                abayomi185 Not sure what video speed controller does, but it sounds like something youtube videos have built in?

                    I've been browsing some more and the issue still persists 🙁

                    Does a clean install involve resetting Orion, History, Bookmarks, etc? Or nuking and redownloading the app?

                    Thanks

                    • Vlad replied to this.
                      14 days later

                      I'm having the same problem, but I don't have Video Speed Controller installed. Whenever I open a few tabs really quickly, usually in YouTube, Orion freezes until all the tabs are loaded. I've tried it with and without compatibility mode on and the problem persists. Is there a confirmed way to fix this?

                      • Vlad replied to this.

                        InterestingName We need a confirmed way to reproduce this first (as I can't). Starting from a clean Orion install please post exact steps to reproduce this problem (video would be great).

                            Vlad For some reason toggling cookies off and back on and logging out and back in to YouTube reduced most of the lag. I'll try to post a video of it on a clean install vs my current install soon.

                                I reset Orion and the glitch has stopped. I'll reply later if it comes up again.

                                  2 months later

                                  was just going to post about this, and yea i dont think its the machine, cuz it also happens on my m1 pro mbp. its almost like random, i dont know, will post again if i see a reproducible pattern, one thing i have noticed is that it happens more the more i use orion(not related to number of tabs open), time as in in days, not individual session, in my first few days of using orion, it happened like twice, however just today(like a lil over a week since i installed) it happened to me atleast 5 times.

                                    17 days later

                                    Just updated Orion to (0.99.123.3-beta) and it is much better!

                                    I can open multiple YouTube videos and reddit posts with barely a hiccup. Works with my extensions too.

                                    Looking forward to seeing how it performs over time and glad to be able to use Orion as my main browser again.

                                    Do you have any ideas as to what it might've been @Vlad ?

                                    • Vlad replied to this.

                                      Thanks!

                                      I had checked the release notes but didn't find anything specific to issue. Perhaps the kernel or memory leak bug?

                                      Was only curious as to what it could be.

                                        12 days later

                                        I have the same problem. Every other few weeks Orion starts playing up and showing a spinning beach ball when I get back to it after using another app. I have 22 pinned tabs plus sometimes up to ten regular ones.

                                        I would love to learn how I can troubleshoot this. Besides deactivating all plugins.
                                        I know of the developer tools, but where do I look/what do I do to find what's holding Orion up?
                                        If I can see on which extension/process it hangs, I can report more precise information.
                                        Thanks!

                                        I'm on Version 0.99.123.3-beta (WebKit 615.1.16.1)
                                        MacBook Pro M1 Max (10 core) 32Gb (macOS Ventura 13.2.1 build 22D68)

                                        • Vlad replied to this.