Anti Fingerprinting

pibeh

Vlad
You're making two points here:

It's absolutely the website's job to fix a script hijacking issue, and
You're counting on website entities to care about Orion users's opinion

Not arguing with any of those two points but simply extending that logic leads us to a conclusion that it's absolutely those entities's job to remove regular fingerprinting and tracking scripts from their products in the first place, given that users are complaining about them left and right, and not only Orion users at that. Which brings us to question why blockers even exist in Orion at all.

Vlad

pibeh I am making just the first point. The other point I am making is that it is not Orion's job to fix maliciously infected websites, but to protect its users, which it does.

Blockers exist because most websites on the web are monetized by ads which people do not like. In addition blockers block tracking scripts, which contain fingerprinters, which is what this thread is about.

0xChain

Similar in the way we're able to set a custom User Agent, please also allow the ability to spoof the locale, timezone, and geolocation. This will add greater granularity to privacy with the browser.

Within the same area where a user can change their User Agent, also allow them to also change the locale, timezone, and geolocation to a specified setting.

joystmp

0xChain Theoretically its tough and advanced js can bypass/detect spoofing (eg. corelate ip, browser languages, system languages with locale, timezone and geolocation).

So if not done correctly, it can make the browser easily fingerprintable, thus reducing privacy.

JSiuDev

0xChain
In N. America, without VPN or something like tor, I don't see a way to hide geolocation for home user. It is from our IP addresses. TZ go hand in hand with geolocation.

lkjhfgds
I tried brave browser, 100% new install (never use it before), did not change any settings, no extension, went to fingerprint.com in both normal mode and private mode, and got the same "visitor id". I did get a different id if I use private + tor. Is there any settings I need to change for the test?

0xChain

joystmp We can use https://webbrowsertools.com/ or https://vytal.io/ to test if successful.

lkjhfgds

tested dozen of browsers on fingerprint.com

@Vlad you mention advanced fingerprint is impossible to prevent. how come Brave browser wasn't "tracked" on the fingerprint.com website? (unlike Orion)

thanks! keep up the good work

Xytronix

Can Orion take inspiration from this recently launched private browser?
They write about privacy friendly practices in their blog as well.

https://mysk.blog/2025/06/17/introducing-psylo

I could see a mix of things working in the end for Orion, a proxy would be interesting as well.

Dustin

Xytronix with my cynicism hat on, a fair few of Mysk's blog posts have been debunked by other researchers or shown to be disingenuous while they were simultaneously working on a subscription-only web browser.

Xytronix

Dustin What is debunked and disingenuous?

Its made by two passionate devs who care about users privacy.

AnoionTheAppilius

I’m curious to know what changes will occur when Orion is updated to the latest version of webkit on desktop, as it introduces numerous anti-fingerprinting features.

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