Orion for Windows / Android / Linux

Felensis

I've discovered Kagi and subsequently Orion just recently and immediately fell in love with both of them. On my iPhone Orion already took the place as my default browser. On Desktop on the other hand it is difficult right now. I'm mainly a longtime Firefox user, but of course tried all the other mostly chromium-based ones as well. Nothing hit the strides for me like Orion (and Kagi). Especially since Mozilla/Firefox are more and more losing their focus.

I've used macOS, Linux and Windows over the last 25+ years, but mainly Windows. Thus I was disappointed that there is currently no build of Orion available. Makes me even considering getting a MacBook again. I'm on Windows mainly on my work pc and for gaming at home. It's nice to see a Linux build of Orion already in development, but I would've hoped to see a Windows version prior to that since that is the OS with the biggest market share.

Anyway this didn't stop me supporting the development with the purchase of a Orion+ lifetime license and subscribing to Kagi. Why you may ask since I can't use it on desktop? The answer is simple: For the community. The more people are able to use both whether that is on macOS, Linux, Windows, iOS or Android is all for the better. Which one in the end comes first doesn't matter that much to me.

I want to support the idea and the great team behind it. Keep up the good job.

Kudos to Vlad and everyone at Kagi/Orion!

jdoexbox11

Hello,

Windows is a pretty popular operating system, even though it sucks. In fact, a lot more people use Windows than they do Mac, or Linux and I feel that porting Orion to Windows will bring in far more users.

While I am switching to Linux in a few days, prioritizing Windows support will lead to a larger userbase faster, which I believe may allow to team to grow large enough to support the project if it were open sourced.

Also, they don't have to accept any pull requests if they don't want to.

Most web browsers like Arc browser, Chrome, Brave, and even Firefox are all cross platform. They support multiple platforms, including Mac, Linux and Windows, with Windows being where most of their userbase comes from.

By expanding Orion support to Windows, you will very likely attract far more users who have been wanting to try Orion out, but just didn't have a Mac to actually use it.

And while Linux users wait for native Linux support, they could probably use WINE or Proton to run the Windows version on Linux.

laiz

jdoexbox11
Hey, I merged your submission with the main thread about this topic. In brief, bringing Orion to Windows requires a substantial amount of resources as the state of WebKit is lacking on Windows when compared to macOS and Linux.

Fs1010

jdoexbox11 There hasn’t been any WebKit development on windows for over a decade, while Linux already has Epiphany (Gnome Web) and GTK+, modern WebKit implementations. It’s probably gonna be 2+ years before a windows version is even remotely ready due to that. They kinda have to build everything from the ground up which basically nobody does because it’s an absolutely massive undertaking. That’s why everything is either chromium (AI Chrome and Crypto Chrome as mentioned) or Firefox forks (Zen, Floorp).

jdoexbox11

Fs1010 While I do agree that the latest versions of win-cairo from Webkit CI are extremely buggy (google.com rendering issues and resizing problems), I have personally tried using Playwright Webkit fork and I've had no issues whatsoever with google and wasm apps.

I'm not sure if Microsoft's fork is rly up to date with modern webkit, but it's stable and it works.

Edit: According to their readme, Microsoft said they use Wekbit 26.0 in playwright.

adamlogan

Build Orion for Android

With Mozilla losing their way with Firefox, Android users need another cross platform web-browser option to turn to.

Vlad

I have some exciting news to share. Orion for Linux development is in full swing and we are expecting first alpha very soon.

I am happy to announce that we have just funded development effort with a dedicated team to develop Orion for Windows.

More info on both next Tuesday.

grue

Vlad

Very excited about both of these! You have a new lifetime supporter!

BeholdThePowerOfNod

Vlad
My reaction:

BeholdThePowerOfNod

Oh boo, a YouTube error...

EDIT: It's back! 😃

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