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1) beautiful design (like the rest of arc, also, unrelated, love how they solved the URL for the side-tabs - preserves all vertical screen real estate)

2) expansive commandset

see here: https://browserinc.notion.site/Command-Bar-T-Actions-e18b0069b1db45a99db1fc07d9ba4c41

especially
1) managing tabs with fuzzy search
2) managing history

here you can see how with one word written I query tabs, history and start a search simultaneously. Massive reduction in cognitive load because whenever I want to do anything I just press cmd+t, then start thinking about what I want to do and start typing until only remaining what I wanted to do - this is a lot faster than having first to decide what I want to do, then click the respective shortcut (e.g. having 3 shortcuts for command, history and tabs)
3) managing extensions (e.g. to turn off ublock for a site, I just cmd+t, then type ub<cr>

and voila I can turn it off
4) split views & managing them (again additional feature worth implementing imho, though separate request)

5) preferences

    8 months later

    Checking in here after I originally started this a year or so back. Currently using Arc browser which does a fantastic job of having a command palette (and a generally very keyboard focused app, I never have to use my trackpad on there).

    My only hangup with Arc is that it sometimes freezes on my (Intel based) Macbook - hence coming back here to see what the development it.

    Good to see a bit of support for this and hopefully all the reviews and feedback of Arc's command palette prompts the green light for this feature being built into Orion!

    I'll check back every few weeks in anticipation.

      For the people who voted, what exactly are you looking for in the command palette?

        I would probably use the command palette as the main way how to interact with Orion, i.e.:

        Want to open a new website?
        Command Pallete -> Type in the website address

        Want to search something in configured search engine?
        Command Pallete -> Type in the thing I want to search for

        Want to share the current website to someone?
        Command Pallete -> Type in "Share" and select "Share" action

        Something like this, where the "bookmark" is the keyword I'd type in as an example:

        So probably:

        1. Open website if the command is a website
        2. Search in the search engine as the default action
        3. (maybe?) search in open tabs
        4. search in all the actions that Orion provides, e.g. Adding bookmarks, sharing a website, enabling reader mode, enabling compatibility mode, etc.
        • Vlad replied to this.

          so: act as an address bar replacement and run common actions (that are often in the menu bar)

            davidkaya What is the main difference to how address bar autocomplete behaves and why not make those changes in the address bar?

                eirk correct.

                Vlad actually making those changes in the address bar would be perfectly fine, the only thing it would need is a shortcut so it is not necessery to click on it.

                • eirk replied to this.

                      eirk Oh, nice. Actually I looked for it recently and I couldn't find it in the menus, for some reason I did not expect that "Open Location..." would do what it does. Thanks!

                          2 months later

                          Brief Summary
                          I think this browser could benefit from having a tab search feature - something similar to what Arc or SigmaOS browsers have.

                          Details:
                          Users would press Cmd + T and instead of it opening a new tab - the tab search popup would appear. It would have a search field and there would be a list of tabs the user already has opened or had opened previously that fuzzy match the input and/or there would be an option to search for it on the default search engine. It would greatly benefit the browser, because you would no longer have to manually search for some specific tab using your mouse or other methods, instead you could do it directly from the keyboard. The design and use-case would also match how people use Macbook's Spotlight Search feature. It would also allow to make the browser completely full-screen, hiding the top bar and the tabs since it would make it possible to navigate through them with just the pop-up.

                          Image/Video:

                          This screenshot shows the feature as it is displayed on SigmaOS website

                            archline I generally like the idea of providing a tab searching system. However, I do not think that it should override the existing shortcut for opening a new tab. Most, if not all, macOS apps that support tabs have the universal shortcut of Cmd+T to open a tab; I feel it would be bad practice to do something completely different for that action, as this would produce something unexpected and inconsistent.

                            Again, I like the general idea, but we should do so in a way that remains consistent with the Human Interface Guidelines.

                              Merged 3 posts from Tab search pop-up feature.

                                archline What is wrong with CMD L and search, as this supports searching tabs too?

                                    8 months later

                                    I love command menus like in Arc or Vivaldi. They allow for much faster access to functionalities like history, general commands and open tabs without memorizing tons of keyboard shortcuts.

                                    It would be great if we could get something like that for Orion as well.

                                    Usually there is central (non-global) shortcut to invoke the menu. CMD-K is used by many websites, so Arc uses CMD-T and Vivaldi uses CMD-E.

                                    This is how it looks like on Arc:

                                    The following things are accessible via the command bar:

                                    • commands usually found in the menu bar (essentially what Help -> Search would give you, but that doesn't seem to be reachable via a shortcut at the moment)
                                    • open tabs
                                    • history items

                                    The most important part for me personally would be menu bar items. History already works quite well via the URL bar and open tab search is not something I use often. Again, that's just my personal priorities.

                                      You have a command palette for every program, including Orion, if you use Raycast, a Spotlight alternative. There are also other programs that offer command palettes everywhere, if you don't like Raycast. Not against your suggestion, just saying that it's already solved for those who want this right now.

                                      How about having menu commands accessible from the URL bar, and specially styled as such when offered?

                                      • Vlad replied to this.
                                        Merged 2 posts from Command Menu.

                                          ubuntudroid Open tabs and history items are already avaialble through cmd l, standard shortcut for address bar.

                                              Vlad Sorry for creating a new feature request - somehow I missed this one while searching for similar ones.

                                              For now I'm going to use Raycast for menu bar items as suggested in this thread. Works well enough for me for the time being.

                                                  carl

                                                  How about having menu commands accessible from the URL bar, and specially styled as such when offered?

                                                  This is a good idea, it would complete everything that is being asked for here. Can you create a seperate feature suggetion just for this (and any thoughts on presentation/styling)

                                                    a month later

                                                         A command palette in Orion would also be like the 'Quick Actions' panel in Xcode 15 and higher. From Xcode 15's release notes:

                                                    General

                                                    New Features

                                                    • The new “Quick Actions” panel provides keyboard access to perform commands across Xcode. (108024215)

                                                    Another piece of community 'documentation' on this is https://sarunw.com/posts/little-big-improvements-xcode15/#quick-action.

                                                         I think that there may be a few orthogonal concerns/feature requests being conflated here, especially after some of the thread merging that's happened. Whether a user can search through:

                                                    • URL/URI navigation auto-complete suggestions
                                                    • bookmarks
                                                    • history
                                                    • open tabs
                                                    • recently open tabs that are now closed
                                                    • tabs open or recently open but now closed on/synced from other devices
                                                    • menu commands
                                                    • other potential user actions (for example, items available in contextual menus for, say, the current tab that aren't in the application menus)

                                                    in:

                                                    • the unified address/search ('location?') bar
                                                    • the application-global Help menu in the top-level top-of-screen menu bar
                                                    • the interface for creating new programmable toolbar buttons and assigning actions to them
                                                    • a potential command palette

                                                    is a set of unique questions/considerations for each UI/UX location.
                                                         Personally, I'd prefer that for/in:

                                                    • the unified address/search ('location?') bar, I can search through:

                                                      • URL/URI navigation auto-complete suggestions

                                                      • bookmarks

                                                      • history

                                                      • open tabs

                                                      • recently open tabs that are now closed

                                                      • tabs open or recently open but now closed on/synced from other devices

                                                      • but not:

                                                        • menu commands
                                                        • other potential user actions (for example, items available in contextual menus for, say, the current tab that aren't in the application menus)

                                                        as surfacing these definitely seems like it could well prove confusing in the 'location' barg, as it doesn't fit the UI element's purpose/idiom/idiomatic usage.

                                                        (They at least shouldn't show up by default; allowing these could potentially be a user preference which I'd personally keep turned off.)

                                                    • the application-global Help menu in the top-level top-of-screen menu bar, I can search through:

                                                      • only menu commands

                                                      (This is default system behavior that can't be changed, as far as I'm aware.)

                                                    • the interface for creating new programmable toolbar buttons and assigning actions to them, I can search through:

                                                      • all the items/actions currently surfaced through this UI
                                                      • other menu and command palette actions as applicable

                                                    • a potential command palette:

                                                      • menu commands

                                                      • other potential user actions (for example, items available in contextual menus for, say, the current tab that aren't in the application menus)

                                                      • optionally:

                                                        • URL/URI navigation auto-complete suggestions

                                                        • bookmarks

                                                        • history

                                                        • open tabs (for a 'jump to open tab' feature in the command palette)

                                                        • recently open tabs that are now closed

                                                        • tabs open or recently open but now closed on/synced from other devices

                                                        with individual toggles. (Whether each of these is surfaced in the command palette by default is something that I'll just leave as an open question.)

                                                         (Finally, other entries that could perhaps also be surfaced in a command palette, too, are:

                                                    • from the programmable toolbar button creation and action assignment UI, the:

                                                      • 'Run JavaScript' and
                                                        • 'Run AppleScript'

                                                      actions

                                                    • Items/entries from the application menu's 'Services' sub-menu.)