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So i tried Arc for the first time today.

And something that I immediately noticed as a major improvement is how you navigate back and forward with trackpad gestures.

In Orion you have to drag extremely far to go back or forward, further more the animation of the page coming in over the page is not very fluent and pretty disturbing. Often in Orion i fail the gesture for not swipping for enough and nothing happens, Its a bit better in Safari but also not great compared to Arc.

This leads me to often just using keyboard command or or the arrow keys in the toolbar instead

Orion:

Safari:

Arc:

Obviously you cant see how i move my hand, but just getting rid of the of the page coming in over the other, is a major improvement. The logic of Orion seems to be i have to drag the page over the half way mark for it to activate. where in Arc when the arrow sign is there i can let go

  • Vlad replied to this.
    Longely changed the title to Make trackpad gestures for back/forward work more like Brave/Arc .

      After trying some other browsers i noticed alot of them has similar behavior that also works well.

      Brave:

      Firefox:

      Chrome:

      So maybe it just comes from Chrome idk. I come from Safari as my main. All of theese are much better IMO

        Longely changed the title to Make trackpad gestures for back/forward work more like other browsers .

          eirk yeah it seems like its the default behavior on most browsers except Safari/Orion. i guess i never noticed since i only used other browsers when i absolutly had to, and was so used to using the arrow toolbar keys because the gestures where not sufficient

              As a long time Brave user, I know exactly what you're referring to with the gestures. I will say, however, that the gestures in Orion are not actually any bigger or slower in my experience. Maybe what you might be experiencing is an illusion from the relatively 'slow' animation?

                Dustin

                Interesting. Im pretty certain thats not the case on my machine. but will double check.

                Edit:

                on brave i have to aproximatly swipe 1cm. on Orion closer to 3cm, this is done slowly. I think maybe its also speed dependent on Orion/Safari.

                Regardless its like night and day the difference, even done fast.

                @Dustin can you test the difference doing it more slowly? and also double check the distance your fingers move when doing it faster?

                    Let me give it a try and I'll try to video Orion and Brave in the same way for you. 🙂

                      Ok, here is my comparison using this thread.

                      Brave:

                      Orion:

                      Orion does require a faster gesture by a small amount but the overall travel I feel is quite similar.

                        Dustin need to be able to see the arrows on Brave, or else i cant tell if you are swipping further then nescessary. so just turn the phone horizontally 🙂. OMG.. you also have Natural scoll off, makes it so confussing to look at since the page is moving the opposite direction of the fingers.

                        thats a pretty big argument for removing the animation IMO

                            I can't record any further at the moment but this was the minimum swipe distance. I tested beforehand how slow and short I could go.

                            Yeah, natural scrolling is off.

                              Longely Orion and Safari should behave exactly the same (as this gesture is powered by WebKit, not browser). Assuming that we really want to stray away from native implementation, what exactly is the ask?

                                  @Vlad

                                  they want orion to have the swipe animation similar to that of chrome

                                  basic description:
                                  no full websites moving around, just a grey semicircle with an arrow that slowly enlarges the more u scroll left/right
                                  this has less animation, so its less disorienting and requires less swiping to complete

                                  Do Firefox/Chrome/Arc all have same swipe animation? It was not clear which one style was preferred?

                                    Vlad yes, they do, as they're all based on chromium

                                    they prefer the chrome animation over the safari one

                                        Would perhaps a global toggle to disable all animations fulfill this request and other similar ones?

                                          that's not the request, they just want a different animation

                                            eirk

                                            I believe @Longely also referred to the trackpad gesture length and speed being different, that they feel Orion requires more swipe gesture to accomplish the forward/back command than with Chromium-based browsers.

                                                Dustin

                                                yes the distance you have to swipe is also shorter as detailed in the original post, and thats an important aspect aswell.

                                                @Vlad

                                                "Do Firefox/Chrome/Arc all have same swipe animation? It was not clear which one style was preferred?"

                                                As shown above all other browsers then Safari/Orion i have tested seem to have no page animation, just an arrow that shows up as an indicator. and that arrow appears to be mostly the same on all of them.

                                                Its not important to me how the arrow looks, what im interested in is shorter swipe distance and not having the page animation.

                                                But here are some suggestions to what could be used:

                                                chevron.left.square.fill

                                                chevron.left.circle.fill

                                                My suggestion would be having it go from 0 to around 80% opacity depending on how far you swipe (like the other browsers), you could include having it come in from the left and stop at the position its at in the screenshot above, but i dont think its nescessary and maybe also less elegant IMO

                                                Im also completly fine with how it looks on any of the other browsers.