Tab completion for previously visited search engines

Fortrikka · Oct 23, 2021

I can press tab after typing in a website which a search input query to automatically search a thing from that website if it is inside of my history. But this browser canno do that.
Similar to DuckDuckGo bangs but you only need to type the first few letters such as "you" then tab in order to search youtube.
Example is type "Youtube", <tab>, then type "Safari 15 browser" to enter 'https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=safari+15+browser+' into the address bar.
All that is needed to do is upon detection of a website searh input, append '?search_query=', then the search field then replacing spaces with '+'(plus signs).

DDoD · Oct 24, 2021

What about a drop down like Chrome/Brave?

Fortrikka · Oct 25, 2021

That is exactly what happens in Safari when you long press or right click the open new tab button. Except that this time in Chrome it is an exact duplicate just for completeness purposes. It is already integrated within the "open new tab" plus button so that is all that is needed to be added, alongside the "recently closed" list.

Fortrikka · Dec 14, 2021

Allow us to simply type in the first few letters of a domain in which we have previous placed a query in, and search something we want within it's input field. I know you can do this with bookmarks the search field, but I want it to be automatic as well. Both Chrome and Safari have this.

TheOtherKai · Dec 15, 2021

Fortrikka so like how you can type youtu, then it automatically shows the be.com

Then press tab and you can search it. Like that?

Fortrikka · Dec 15, 2021

Yes, like that

Vlad · Dec 15, 2021

Fortrikka What other browser does that and can you specify the full requirements from that browser (in terms of UI and settings needed)

Fortrikka · Dec 16, 2021

Vlad Just Chrome, Firefox, and Safari. The requirements is just typing in any search input field and having it in your history. Typing the first few letters of the history entry with the ?search query within it's address bar it's enough, and when you press tab it changes to the search input field of that website plus your query.

Vlad · Dec 17, 2021

Fortrikka It is more complicated then that... You have to actually first search something on the website for it to be remembered.. then there is manage websites setting where you can see them etc, at minimum. We are looking for full specification of the feature as it is not trivial. You can pick a browser which has implemented it the best and suggest that workflow.

Fortrikka · Dec 17, 2021

Vlad I am guessing Chrome for the user interface, and Safari for the implementation. It is Safari because it provides the option to manually delete the auto search input fields which are automatically created in the menu bar. Automatic is better because it fits the philosophy of "Don't think about it."

Vlad · Dec 17, 2021

Fortrikka Can you show the video to get an idea of the implementation?

Fortrikka · Jan 2, 2022

Essentially, what needs to be added is just the search bar, and the recently closed.

Vlad · Jan 2, 2022

Fortrikka I do not think the comment is related to this discussion?

Fortrikka · Jan 8, 2022

Vlad I know, but here is the concept: Every website that has a search input field which was placed into the history area which can be found by simply doing a search function with %s or whichever identifier search input fields use to input into the address bar, you simply make every single one of these queries be able to be automatically searched without having to go to the website first. For example, if you type "kagi, tab, then Orion browser", you will search for "Oriokn browser" on kagi. This is also available on Chrome and Firefox as well.

Please note that the right arrow with a line before it is the "tab" key in the video. Please pause at moments in the video if you still do not understand it.
Since this is on Firefox, you may look into taking some inspiration from the code of Firefox's search bar and how it auto completes websites.

Please note that this specific "auto adding" is not yet added. Yes, there exists the option to add custom search engines, but that is not the same as Safari just simply automatically adding all search input fields into the history to be navigated, or even adding input fields as an option to be bookmarked. None of these two options have yet been added.
I would appreciate the adding of two of these functions, but if not enough time then the latter would be appreciable for a while, but Safari's auto search feature is still a nice feature to have for more parity with Safari.

Vlad · Jan 9, 2022

Fortrikka Can you specify what exactly is the ask in this thread and change the title appropriately?

Fortrikka · Jan 9, 2022

Vlad Was this merged? I do not see a merge message here.

Vlad · Jan 9, 2022

I was not. Asking for clarification what is the exact ask?

Fortrikka · Jan 17, 2022

Vlad Watch the videos

Fortrikka · Jan 19, 2022

DoD This is out of topic although

eirk · Apr 10, 2023

comparing the flow for orion, chrome, and safari:
suppose we want to create a way to quickly search DuckDuckGo

orion

steps

go to duckduckgo.com
create a bookmark
edit bookmark
add in appropriate data
use it by typing duckduckgo your query, and it shows up in Top Hits

video:

chrome

steps

type in duckduckgo.com
press tab, it auto appears

Chrome already knows duckduckgo is a search engine. if it didn't it would only require a search to get it automatically saved, as chrome also seems to detect ?q= to be search

video:

##safari
steps:
steps

go to duckduckgo.com
search something. Safari detects the ?q= in the URL and automagically puts it in Quick Website Search
now use it by typing duckduckgo your query under Search duckduckgo.com

video

request

Orion should automatically detect when something is a search, and automatically save that information somewhere (idk where)
additionally, it should make it more obvious that this is using a custom search by putting it in the heading "Search" or "Custom Search" rather than "Top Hits"

Vlad · Apr 10, 2023

eirk How would Orion detect something is a search? q= is used an very many sites.

What does the interface for this look like?

ForumNinja404 · Apr 11, 2023

This may be related to detecting OpenSearch metadata. MDN has a guide on using OpenSearch so that Firefox can detect 3rd-party search fields.

Vlad · Apr 13, 2023

Can someone desribe the entire flow, including the changes in Orion UI to make this work? Btw there is also an issue for this already open.

eirk · Apr 13, 2023

Vlad Btw there is also an issue for this already open

yeah, i was pretty sure there was, but i couldn’t find it

Vlad · Apr 14, 2023

eirk Is it this? https://orionfeedback.org/d/150-search-field-tab-completion

ForumNinja404 · May 11, 2023

Vlad Yes it is.

A user visits a site with opensearch metadata/url parameters
A user performs a search within that site
When accessing the address bar, the user can type that site’s name and press tab to enter a query for that site.

I imagine that Orion will allow quick search on that site as long as it’s in the user’s history. There should also be a button in the address bar that appears on hover (similar to the reader mode button) which should prompt the user to add it as a search engine if OpenSearch metadata is detected.

Vlad · May 13, 2023

ForumNinja404

I imagine that Orion will allow quick search on that site as long as it’s in the user’s history

This is not clear from a technical perspective. How would we know that a suer previously executed a search on a site just by looking at url?

Should these two be merged?

ForumNinja404 · May 14, 2023

You couldn't. I would go the route of detecting opensearch metadata. You could also detect ?q= ?query= and ?search= in the url to cover instances where opensearch metadata is unavalible. This feature could be called "Quick search dectection" and have a description like: "When this option is enabled, you can type a visited site's name and press tab to preform a search query on that site."